Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Theonlyedge
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[edit] pm_shef
- pm_shef (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
- Theonlyedge (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
NOTE: This is directly related to the user:VaughanWatch discussion below. This was the discussion for that case. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/VaughanWatch
This is the other side of the VaughanWatch saga. user:Theonlyedge posts on many of the same issues as user:pm_shef and agrees with him in every case. Also, he has disappeared recently. I believe, pm_shef hide this well because he made a few non-Vaughan related edits and created a profile page. It doesn't hurt to check. Also, Shefman's father owns a company with a similar name as Theonlyedge. Somebody please check this out. ED209 01:03, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Here is the evidence of sockpuppetry against Pm_shef (talk • contribs • page moves • block user • block log):
1. After Alan Shefman's son User:Pm_shef writes that he will abstain from editing articles related to Vaughan politics, and confirmed that abstention at 05:55, 11 April 2006 here, "Theonlyedge" goes after Pm_shef's longtime Vaughan target (who he nominated for the AfD a month prior) a few hours later, at 22:02, 11 April 2006 here. Coincidence?
2. The name of Pm_shef's father's company is simply The Edge. It is involved in anti-racism, which we know Pm_shef/ has been involved in too, both personally and through his edits. The Edge sounds a lot like The Only Edge... a coincidence? See main link to his father's bread-and-butter for 25 years: [www3.sympatico.ca/theedgeq/]
3. Both accounts in question were created within 5 weeks of one another; Pm_shef on Oct 31 2005, TheOnlyEdge on Dec 11 2005.
4. 4 hours after Pm_shef nominates this article for deletion (which he ultimately lost), Theonlyedege comes around and does NOT vote Keep or Delete but rather, after two consecutive Keep votes, adds a comment that the article should be shortened to 2 or 3 paragraghs. This was Shef's way of cutting his losses. See original AfD Keep debate: 15.
5. Both users are from the Thornhill area, as they have both have edited the article on Thornhill and are obsessed with their politicians.
6. Both are obsessed with adding positive POV edits to their favorites Susan Kadis (as well as Michael Di Biase) and negative edits/blanking to their political competitor Mario Racco and political opponents Anthony Reale, Tina Molinari and Josh Cooper.
7. Why did Pm_shef / Theonlyedge create this article on a previous opponent? So that he can control it. He can keep it down to 2 or 3 sentences and maintain control over content.
8. I know this may sound odd, but I see strong similarities in there writing.
This was evidence brought forward by another user, however, the parts I have included are still relevant. A checkuser is the least you can do to figure this situation out. user:pm_shef contributes virtually nothing useful to wikipedia. In fact, all of his edits are antagonizing and usually consist of reverting things he disagrees with. He hasn't made a solid addition to a page in quite awhile now. ED209 01:33, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
- user:Theonlyedge has disappeared for about a month and a half. I believe user:pm_shef may have forgotten the password or something. Please check this out so we can put this issue to rest. All of these points are the truth. ED209 17:50, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Clerk note: Theonlyedge has been inactive[1] for 6 weeks. I am not sure a check is needed since there does not seem to be much threat of abuse at this time.Voice-of-All 22:12, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Declined Mackensen (talk) 18:06, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Subsequent requests related to this user should be made above, in a new section.
[edit] Theonlyedge and Pm_shef
The issue with Vaughan below and his (suspected) sockpuppets are claiming these two users are the same person by continuing to drop sockpuppet notices on the two pages. This was what caused the below user(s) to get blocked, and therefore causing sockpuppetry to circumvent blocks. Please check just to have concrete evidence. — Deckiller 03:04, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
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- I wouldn't mind having this evidence, but I'd like to point out that on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Simon Strelchock (second nomination), the first such sockpuppet allegation actually claims that Theonlyedge is pm_shef's father. Mangojuice 12:48, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
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- This was marked inconclusive below (in completed requests). Syrthiss 20:37, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
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Pm_shef
- Theonlyedge (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log)
- Pm_shef (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log)
1. After User:Pm_shef writes that he will abstain from editing articles related to Vaughan politics, and confirmed that abstention at 05:55, 11 April 2006 here,"Theonlyedge" goes after Pm_shef's longtime Vaughan target (who he nominated for the AfD a month prior) a few hours later, at 22:02, 11 April 2006 here. Coincidence?
2. The name of Pm_shef's father's company is simply The Edge. It is involved in anti-racism, which we know Pm_shef/ has been involved in too, both personally and through his edits. The Edge sounds a lot like The Only Edge... a coincidence? See main link to his father's bread-and-butter for 25 years: [www3.sympatico.ca/theedgeq/]
3. Roughly 50% of all Theonlyedge's edits are also articles that Pm_shef has edited. Compare Pm_shef's contributions to Theonlyedge's contributions.
4. Both accounts in question were created within 5 weeks of one another; Pm_shef on Oct 31 2005, TheOnlyEdge on Dec 11 2005.
5. 4 hours after Pm_shef nominates this article for deletion (which he ultimately lost), Theonlyedege comes around and does NOT vote Keep or Delete but rather, after two consecutive Keep votes, adds a comment that the article should be shortened to 2 or 3 paragraghs. This was Shef's way of cutting his losses. See original AfD Keep debate: [[2]].
6. Both users are from Thornhill, as they have both have edited the article on Thornhill and are obsessed with their politicians.
7. Both are obsessed with adding positive POV edits to their favorites Susan Kadis (as well as Michael Di Biase) and negative edits/blanking to their political competitor Mario Racco and political opponents Anthony Reale, Tina Molinari and Josh Cooper.
8. Why did Pm_shef / Theonlyedge create this article? So that he can control it. He can keep it down to 2 or 3 sentences and maintain control over content.
I hope this is enough evidence, but if you want more, I can find more. Theonlyedge, as I see it, is the sockpuppet that does the dirty work for Pm_shef. He comes out of hibernation when needed, like a trusty administrative assistant. Leotardo 12:39, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
- Leotardo's comments are endorsed by a couple of admins at WP:AN/I - we don't recall seeing such suspiciously similar behaviour by two verifiably different users before. If confirmed Pm-shef is in deep trouble. Just zis Guy you know? 11:37, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
- Inconclusive. Note that Leotardo has been blocked indefinitely for massive sockpuppetry. Mackensen (talk) 11:29, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
- Okey-doke, thanks. Time to nuke the entire walled garden, I think... Just zis Guy you know? 11:40, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Subsequent requests related to this user should be made above, in a new section.