Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/HK30

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There is reason to believe that this is a sockpuppet of User:206.61.48.22 and/or User:Giovanni33, created to avoid violating WP:3RR. Please note that I do not feel that Giovanni33 is involved but do believe the anonymous user to be related to this new user. Rationale/evidence can be found at the history page and talk page for Christianity. Thank you... KHM03 (talk) 18:41, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

I was just coming here to make the same request. Giovanni33 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log) has been shown to use sockpuppets before. BelindaGong (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log), as established by Usercheck, and Freethinker99 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log), as established by signing as one editor, forgetting he was logged on as another, having pretended that the other was a brand new editor with no connection to him. Both those socks began their career on Wikipedia by saying on the talkpage that they agreed with him, and then reverting to his version, when he had run out of reverts, or while he was blocked.
We also suspected Kecik (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log) and MikaM (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log) of a connection to Giovanni, as Kecik's seventeen article edits contain sixteen reverts to Giovanni, and his talk page edits are 100% supporting Giovanni, or voting for what Giovanni votes for, on different articles that he'd be unlikely to find by himself as a new user. Usercheck showed no connection, however. The same with MikaM; the account seems to exist for the purpose of reverting to Giovanni, voting for Giovanni's version, on multiple articles, but the usercheck found no connection. All five editors continued to ignore 3RR, after it was brought to their attention. (Not just an accidental slip into a fourth revert, but as many as eleven a day.)
There were also, some time ago, two brand new editors that appeared when Giovanni had not edited for a few days. RTS (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log) turned up after Giovanni had been absent for about two days (I think), said on the talk page that he agreed with Giovanni, and then reverted to Giovanni's version seven times, if I remember rightly, despite multiple warnings and pleas. I reported him at WP:AN/3RR, and he was blocked. Immediately after, brand-new NPOV77 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log) appeared, and reverted to his version, saying in the edit summary that he was aware of the rules and had two reverts left. Having typed up lengthy explanations of the rules for RTS, and polite requests, in an effort to AGF, knowing quite well that he was a sockpuppet, I acted on instinct, and blocked NPOV77 immediately, even though I was involved in the article. (Blocked for sockpuppetry, not for reverting.) I then reported it at WP:AN/I, to get a review of the emergency block, and got a lot of support from fellow admins. I didn't ask for a usercheck, because there was a backlog at the time, and I knew that since the person I (and others) suspected had been caught before, he was aware of IP checks; and since he hadn't edited in the previous few days, I thought he might be away from home, perhaps in a hotel, and taking advantage of an unconnected IP address to get as many reverts as possible, knowing he'd be blocked if he made four, but that we were more lenient towards new users.
Another point, these sockpuppets and suspected sockpuppets are in disagreement over article content with me, User:Str1977, and User:KHM03. The two recent suspected socks, RTS and NPOV77 seemed to have chosen their names as a variation on Str1977. Has the new editor based his name on KHM03? The pattern of reverting, the language used in the edit summaries, etc., are 100% consistent with the pattern we've already seen. There could also be a connection with Trollwatcher (talk • contribs), John1838 (talk • contribs) and J1838 (talk • contribs) though I think that's less likely. Trollwatcher has as his apparent purpose keeping an eye on how Christians treat new users who disagree with them, and is directing people to [spam removed], which attacks several Christian editors by name (me, KHM03, Str1977, Storm Rider, DJ Clayworth, and Tom harrison). John1838 and J1838 are the same user. Like Trollwatcher, there was no evidence of wanting to contribute to Wikipedia. He just wanted to build "case studies" about the behaviour of KHM03 and others. His John1838 user page was deleted as an attack page, so he registered a new account as J1838, and his new user page was deleted as well. Much of the material is now found on the new website which Trollwatcher is advertising.
P.S., at this moment, HK30 has now reverted five times under that name, plus possibly three times as User:206.61.48.22. Three of the reverts have been since I informed him of the rule (which of course he was already aware of, in my opinion). AnnH ♫ 19:29, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


Confirmed User:HK30 is confirmed as a sockpuppet of User:206.61.48.22 and User:Mercury2001. There is no match between them and User:Giovanni33. BTW, HK30 was first blocked indefinitely by one admin, then for one month by another admin, so the block will drop off in a couple of weeks. That should probably be sorted out. Jayjg (talk) 17:49, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Despite my belief that this usercheck was not a valid request, I'm actually glad it was carried out because it clears my name from the repeated insinuations by those still looking for an excuse to get rid of me. I guess better luck next time with these fishing expeditions.Giovanni33 04:58, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
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