Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Dr Chatterjee

[edit] Dr Chatterjee

• Dr Chatterjee (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
• Azer Red (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)

• Code Letter: F.

This user is exhibiting the same behaviour as Dr Chatterjee who turned out to be a Bobby Boulder sock. Original account name was Rouge Rosado.

• Nominating a change in counter vandalism policy at Wikipedia:Revised_vandalism_warning_system
• Nominating a counter vandalism page for deletion at [[1]]
• Mulitiple edits to Wikipedia:Long term abuse/Randallrobinstine, as did Dr Chatterjee

Clappingsimon talk 10:14, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Clerk note: Retitled, and moved to correct page. Prodego ^talk 21:09, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Note: Dr Chatterjee is too old to check. Do you have another account or IP I could check against? Dmcdevit·t 10:16, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Actually, Mackensen has checked DrC before (see the previous requests), so I think this should probably be deferred to him. Scobell302 10:54, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Inconclusive Mackensen (talk) 12:21, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Comment - According to contribs, Chatterjee nominated the page Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism Unit for deletion. I nominated the page Wikipedia:Cleaning up vandalism to be deleted because it seems to be basically the same as Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism Unit and is much less active. I edited the "Randallrobinstine" page a while back along with all the other vandal subpages to add them to Category:Wikipedia vandalism and cleaned the pages up a bit if they needed it. I am not Chatterjee or Randallrobinstine. If the fact that I am a fairly new user and yet was familiar with how Wikipedia works from the start is suspicious (as another user who accused me of being a sock before pointed out), it is because I have edited Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects before as anon prior to creating this account.--Azer Red Si? 23:00, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Do you have the diff for the user who raised that as a newbie you were suspicially familiar with Wikipedia? I ask because I did raise this with Dr Chatterjee (that he was overly familiar with CV policy) but can't see where it has been raised with you. Cheers Clappingsimon talk 03:53, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dr Chatterjee

• Dr Chatterjee (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
• Lorrainier (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)

Can you please check user Lorrainier (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser). He has been active in Vandalism pages only a few days of editing and he has also nomited servel pages realting to vandal subpages[2] [3]. He has also edit pages realting to bobby boulders[4]. Which makes me think that he might also be a sockpuppet of Dr Chatterjee —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Scott3 (talk • contribs) 22:10, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Unrelated Mackensen (talk) 13:11, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Alright, moving the entry over from Wikipedia:Requests for investigation to keep things in one place (considering its one-month backlog, that request is going nowhere):

• Jorge Rodriguesss (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
• Lorrainier (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)

I'd appreciate a cross with Jorge Rodriguesss; that three minute gap between contribs on September 7th is too convincing to pass up. Considering Bobby might just be keeping his IPs more organized as of late this forum may not be of too much help; I suppose we'll just toss this onto Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets in that case. ~ PseudoSudo 19:36, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Still Unrelated. Interesting traffic on the Rodriguesss IP; turns out I've blocked it already. Mackensen (talk) 15:36, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dr Chatterjee

• Dr Chatterjee (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
• Funkyzeit (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
• Rustag (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
• Mister Righteous (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)
• 71.107.251.78 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • block user • block log • checkip)

Dr Chatterjee has been extremely active recently in arguing for the deletion of the projectspace page Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism Unit. Evidence leads me to suspect he has spawned at least three sockpuppets, Funkyzeit, Rustag, and Mister Righteous, which if confirmed would leave him in violation of:

1. WP:SOCK#Voting and other shows of support, in using sockpuppets to create an illusion of broader support for a position than actually exists
2. WP:SOCK#Circumventing policy, in using sockpuppets to evade a page-ban

The related pages:

• Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism Unit (second nomination)
  • closed as Delete; four out of the six users arguing for deletion were the aforementioned four accounts
• Wikipedia:Deletion review/Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism Unit
  • less related, however edited by Dr Chatterjee and Mister Righteous
• Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism Unit (third nomination)
  • currently an ongoing discussion; Dr Chatterjee was recently banned from editing the page, soon after which Rustag and Mister Righteous first started posting to it

Additional evidence linking the accounts to one another:

• the sockpuppets' userpages, User:Funkyzeit, User:Mister Righteous, User:Rustag are of identical layout
• matching edit summary between Funkyzeit and Mister Righteous ("grammar"), here: [9], [10]
• 71.107.251.78 is definitively the logged-out address of Rustag and Mister Righteous; out of 71.107.251.78's three most recent edits:
  • first one picked up by Rustag
  • second one picked up by Mister Righteous
  • third one picked up by Mister Righteous
• a link also seems to be present between Dr Chatterjee and the sockpuppets with respect to similarities in writing style and wikisyntax usage: as one example, Dr Chatterjee has linked to the page Wikipedia:Vandalism multiple times using a bare or piped link pointing to the (unusual) WP:Vandalism; ([11], [12]) Funkyzeit is the only other user on the three pages to also do so. ([13])

It has been suggested to Dr Chatterjee on his talk page that he seems to have more policy knowledge than the average user that has been around for a month's time; the possibility exists that Dr Chatterjee himself is a sockpuppet of an existing established user. If such is the case, and additionally the sockpuppet is illegit (i.e. the master sockpuppeteer is in fact also involved in the debates), then revealing of the master account name would seem appropriate as well.

~ PseudoSudo 20:50, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Confirmed. Futhermore, he's actually the "BobbyBoulders" vandal. Mackensen (talk) 16:55, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

I'd like to extend this request to include other voters on Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism Unit (third nomination). --Cat out 17:51, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I second that. There might be more socks out there waiting in the wings or may have been missed. Æon ^{Insanity Now!}_EA! 08:04, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

• Lorrainier (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log • checkuser)

Let's denote User:Lorrainier, another SPA with behavior very very similar to chatterjee. In any case, its most definately a single purpose account. It started right off with keen interest in vandalism-related pages. Retagged User:Bobby Boulders as {{BB}}, a few days after Cyde got rid of most of the bobby boulders related material after finding it was tied to pagemove vandalism (hence willy-related) [14]. May also be Randallrobinstine, insted. The page was expanded by Lorrianer, including creating a redirect for it[15] yet despite panning for deletion of other LTA subpages, including tagging user subpages for speedy deletion,[16][17] has not touched this one. I'll understand if this is believed to be fishing, though is may some of the last of it. ANI talked about rooting out a medium-sized support sockfarm from these pages, so those are mostly gone I hope. Kevin_b_er 15:33, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

• Yeah, I'm calling fishing. There are too many users there to check them all. Mackensen (talk) 16:13, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Clerk note: If all you really want to do is block the IPs/proxies from which BB is currently editing (if proving identity with another known user is not really important), list the user names at the bottom of the page in the new Request for IP check section. Thatcher131 (talk) 16:17, 7 September 2006 (UTC)