Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Marcosantezana/Workshop

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This is a page for working on Arbitration decisions. It provides for suggestions by Arbitrators and other users and for comment by arbitrators, the parties and others. After the analysis of /Evidence here and development of proposed principles, findings of fact, and remedies. Anyone who edits should sign all suggestions and comments. Arbitrators will place proposed items they have confidence in on /Proposed decision.

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[edit] Proposed temporary injunctions

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[edit] Marcosantezana banned from biology related articles

1) Marcosantezana is banned from editing Natural selection and other biology related articles pending resolution of this arbitration request.

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[edit] Wikipedia:Three-revert rule

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[edit] Wikipedia:Ownership of articles

2) Nobody has exclusive ownership of an article.

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[edit] Wikipedia:Consensus

3) All editors should be respectful of consensus reached by editors.

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[edit] Courtesy

4) Users are expected to be reasonably courteous to other users.

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[edit] Negotiation

5) Users are expected to to be able to engage in productive negotiation with other users with respect to the content of articles.

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[edit] Ban from editing articles

6) Users who disrupt the editing of articles which deal with a particular subject may be banned from editing that subject area.

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[edit] Civility

7) WP:CIVIL: Users are expected to be civil towards each other

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Added Kim van der Linde at venus 02:20, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Marcosantezana has violated 3RR

1) Marcosantezana (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log) has twice violated WP:3RR (First: [1], [2], [3], [4]; Second [5], [6], [7], [8]).

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[edit] Marcosantezana has been discourteous

2) Marcosantezana has been discourteous to other editors [9].

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[edit] Disruption by Marcosantezana

3) Marcosantezana, despite being very knowledgeable about Biology and Natural selection, is unable to function adequately in the editing of articles related to natural selection. He is unable to negotiate productively with other editors, persists in adding excessively detailed information into the article, and engages in edit warring.

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[edit] Marcosantezana is uncivil

4) Marcosantezana's behaviour towards others is uncivil.

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~Added. Kim van der Linde at venus

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[edit] Proposed remedies

Note: All remedies that refer to a period of time, for example to a ban of X months or a revert parole of Y months, are to run concurrently unless otherwise stated.

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[edit] Mentorship

1) User:Marcosantezana is placed under Wikipedia:Mentorship for an undetermined time until he is behaving within the rules and policies of Wikipedia.

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I think the major issue is that he just does not get the basic point that Wikipedia is a communitybeffort, and works by arguments and building consensus. His ignoring of anything and everything who is not in line with his views and the way he treats people are prime examples of that. Placing him under Mentorship could help to solve the problem as he definatly has something to offer to wikipedia. KimvdLinde 19:57, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
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I think he's unlikely to take constructive critcism from a Mentor that doesn't have very strong biology credientials. I have noticed some editors, so far uninvolved with the articles in question, that might be solicited to act as Mentors. I suspect that the more likely they are to succeed as Mentors in this case, the harder it will be to convince them that it's worth their while... Pete.Hurd 14:12, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Although I think Pete is right in his assessment of Marcos, I think this is actually part of the problem and not the solution - he needs to learn that edits are not justified solely through one's expertise in a given subject (e.g. biology) but through compliance with policies, including working with others. If he won't allow himself to be mentored (effectively and succesfully) by a non-biologist, then any mentoring will be at best only partly effective. Slrubenstein | Talk 19:08, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Good point, total agreement. Pete.Hurd 19:14, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ban pending mentorship

2) User:Marcosantezana is banned from editing main pages until placing under mentorship has resulted in behaviour that is in compliance with the rules and policies of Wikipedia.

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Letting him participate at the talk pages can be beneficial for wikipedia but only in combination with a mentorship. The mainissues with him are at the main pages where he just edits the way he thinks is best. KimvdLinde 19:57, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
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Given his past evasion of 24 hr block, I think it more likely he would evade the ban via anon IP (or new user account) than quietly wait and resume after a ban. That being said, I don't see this concern as a valid reason for not trying to implement this decision. Pete.Hurd 14:12, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ban if mentorship fails

3) User:Marcosantezana will be banned from editing main pages indefinitely if placing under mentorship does not result in compliance with the rules and policies of Wikipedia.

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Well, if there is not improvement under mentorship, the whole circus would start again as soon as any temporarily ban would expire.KimvdLinde 19:57, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
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repeat my comment from #2. Pete.Hurd 14:12, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Marcosantezana banned from editing natural selection

4) Marcosantezana is banned for one year from editing natural selection and related articles. He may continue to edit the talk pages of the affected articles and make suggestions and comments regarding content of the articles.

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[edit] Marcosantezana placed on probation

5) Marcosantezana is placed on probation indefinitely. He may be banned for up to one year by any Wikipedia administrator from any article which he disrupts by tendentious editing or edit warring. He may continue to make suggestions and comments on the talk page of articles. All bans to be logged at Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Marcosantezana#Log_of_blocks_and_bans.

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[edit] Enforcement by block

1) Should Marcosantezana violate any ban he may be briefly blocked, up to a week for repeat offenses. After 5 blocks the maximum block shall be increased to one year. Blocks to be logged at Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Marcosantezana#Log_of_blocks_and_bans.

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[edit] Analysis of evidence

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