Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Bushytails

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[edit] Bushytails

Final (34/17/3) ended 20:30 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Bushytails (talk • contribs) – Bushytails is a great vandal fighter. It's his fault I'm on Wikipedia, not sure if that's a good thing though... :) He's always complaining about not having rollback, non-admin reverts taking forever, etc. I think he'd wield the mop well, and use it often. He's also written several nice articles. For full disclosure, he has 1404 edits, and has been editing since 2004-12-30, but I do not feel edit counts mean anything on RFA... --Phroziac(talk) 18:21, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here:
Meep! I gratefully accept.  :) Bushytails 20:15, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Support

  1. Support - Let me be the first to support this fine editor. -- Francs2000 20:33, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
  2. Support - Bushytails would make a great addition to the Wiki team -- gxti 21:17, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
  3. --JAranda | watz sup 21:44, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
  4. Support. El_C 21:47, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
  5. Support. I don't believe this user would abuse admin tools. Christopher Parham (talk) 21:56, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
  6. Support If Phroziac nominated, that's already a huge plus, she's a well respected editor. That plus a quick scan of your contribs (alot of vandal reverts and edit summaries, ol' Durin would be proud), and I think Bushy definately deserves the mop. Edits be damned. Karmafist 22:04, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
    Thanks. *hug* --Phroziac(talk) 22:37, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
  7. Oran e (t) (c) (@) 22:18, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
  8. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:40, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
  9. Support Lots of good work, level-headed. Luigizanasi 23:36, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
  10. Support vandal-whackers. Titoxd(?!?) 23:38, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
  11. Support Fantastic fellow. Can't think of a better admin candidate. Personally, there aren't nearly enough dildos on the main page..:).--Sean Black Talk 23:56, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
  12. Merovingian (t) (c) (e) 02:25, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
  13. Support Should make a good admin, level headed, cool under fire and with a lot of good edits/contributions. — Graibeard 02:41, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
  14. Support worked with this kind and diligent user before. Molotov (talk) 02:50, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
  15. Support --Kefalonia 08:03, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
  16. Support - per my standards. --Celestianpower háblame 14:51, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
  17. Extreme Strap-on Dildo Support!.  Grue  16:33, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
  18. Support nice name --Gamer28 18:21, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
  19. Support per nom. Jkelly 19:43, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
  20. Support per nomination. --JiFish(Talk/Contrib) 01:03, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
  21. Support User would make a fine admin ;] In reference to Kirill Lokshin's comment, I don't see anything wrong with the comment made on that talk page... --VileRage (Talk|Cont) 07:14, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
  22. Support. WP:NOT censored for the protection of minors. Ral315 (talk) 07:47, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
  23. Support. Johann Wolfgang 15:20, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
  24. FireFox 17:49, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
  25. Enthusiastic Support, Bushytails is one of the best things about Wikipedia. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 18:26, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
  26. Support, what another dildo among friends? Seriously folks, tackling a subject like that is decidedly not easy and deserves some recognition. Beyond that, sometimes it seems we're entirely too hard on people. Tedernst 21:42, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
  27. Support. What's wrong with strap-on dildos? Kaldari 06:06, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
  28. Support, will make a good admin. --Angr/tɔk tə mi 12:50, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
  29. Support, lots of good quality writing and reasoned responses to the arguments against that DYK entry. Would make a good admin IMO. Leithp 07:18, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
  30. Support. What's wrong with dildoes? — JIP | Talk 09:16, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
  31. BRIAN0918 • 2005-10-31 12:28
  32. Hipocrite - «Talk» 16:54, 31 October 2005 (UTC) Nothing wrong with a good dildo. Hipocrite - «Talk» 16:54, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
  33. Support. Don't really understand the Oppose votes. I can't see how any of this makes him unlikely to be a good admin. The Land 17:32, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
  34. Support. To some of the oppose voters: Please stop treating adminship as some prize to hand out to people you like. It's about whether the candidate is willing and able to use administrative privileges. If you disagree with Bushytails on whether the Wikipedia Main Page should be "family-friendly" or not, discuss it with him. An adminship nomination is not the place for that discussion. The concerns that the user may abuse their privileges based on this incident are far-fetched at best, and in any case, almost any damage is easily undone. Expressing a controversial opinion should not be grounds for denying a user adminship; indeed, courageously and honestly speaking one's mind (while making an effort not to be hurtful) should be rewarded.--Eloquence* 03:18, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Oppose

  1. Oppose In regard to the strap on dildo comment - I question the maturity of this user. freestylefrappe 01:05, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
  2. Oppose — this comment suggests that the user doesn't appreciate the need for "sound editorial judgement"[1] in some matters. Kirill Lokshin 03:26, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
    I don't agree with putting that on the main page, but, I really do not feel that his editorial judgement should affect his adminship. It's not like he's going to replace the main page with goatse. Just my $0.029/10 --Phroziac(talk) 06:28, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
  3. Oppose. --Sn0wflake 06:20, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
  4. Weak Oppose. Although I largely agree with him on the substance of the Dildo discussion (and find the article itself rather good though more detailed than i can bear), I think he has dealt with the controversy in a rather undiplomatic way. Reactions to the criticism with comments such as "this really made me laugh out loud", and then ignoring the content of the criticism, does not make one level headed or cool. Instead, it makes you look arrogant and only serves to enrage others more. Remember, dont be a Cock ;-) The Minister of War 10:51, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
    I'm not sure I'd call his comments "criticism" (more like personal attacks if you read all of them, and this was after threats of legal action), and with him spamming admins' talk pages trying to get me blocked for using the word "cock" in an external link (and hints of 3rr even though I only reverted it once the entire dispute; his changes were in place the entire time of that discussion, as I left them in), his comment of "Neutral means that there should be no foul language" finally just made me laugh... and remember that dont be a cock has to be countered by don't feed the trolls.  :) Thanks, Bushytails 18:06, 25 October 2005 (UTC).
    Spawn Man is hardly a troll though. If you've had 30 reactions to the article being on the main page, perhaps you should consider not putting it on the main page. If anything, this RfA is demonstrating many more people feel like he does. Agreed, WP shouldnt be censored, but we shouldnt want to push to make it controversial either. The Minister of War 09:15, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
    Thanks for sticking up for me MOW. As I've said before, I was not threatening legal action, I was stating that in some cases, people may find this offensive & it seemed to be under law. Also, I never spammed admins trying to get you blocked, I was asking reliable users, some of which are close friends, (eg: This user), what the next course of action was, & if was that they would block you. Not asking that, just seeing if it would lead to that. I've made my vote in the appropriate section, (Oppose), & that's that I'm afraid. Spawn Man 01:27, 30 October 2005 (UTC) P.S. I agree I'm not a troll, a nice one if I am....
  5. Oppose: agree with Snowflake. CDThieme 17:57, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
  6. Oppose, per Kirill Lokshin. I edit from work, and I know many others do as well. I have concerns about this editor's judgement.--Scimitar parley 22:00, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
    • Strong Oppose: I just found out that Bushytails is up for adminship a few moments ago. I am what used to be 71.132.159.145. Bushytails decided to post an accusation of sockpupetting a "Biggie.P" on my user talk page. No only is such a false accusation slanderous, but it also hurts my ability to make meaningful Wikipedia edits. When people see that on my user talk page, they will be tempted to dismiss my credibility. Because Bushytails made this horrendous assumption, I question his ability to make good decisions as a Wikipedia administrator. --JJ.Johnson 00:34, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
    • This was this user's first edit(see contribs.)Karmafist 16:40, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
  7. Oppose, unfortunately; seems like a nice guy. Strap-on dildo reads like a how-to (indeed Bushytails refers to it as a "guide") and is a bad example of non-NPOV. It's not a bad place for an article to start but I'd like an admin to be a little more familiar with applying those policies. Demi T/C 04:49, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
  8. Weak Oppose per Scimitar. I think Bushytails is a fine contributor, but I am sensitive to others' concerns. This is really a "better-safe-than-sorry" vote; I'd like more of a record to evaluate his judgment, in light of the concerns raised here. Xoloz 05:59, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
    • Oppose Bushytails knows how to use a dildo and probably has used one. While masturbating is natural and ok, Wikipedia is about community relationships, not self-sufficiency. IHOP.yummy 07:22, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
    • This account has precisely one edit, the masterpiece seen above.--Scimitar parley 15:15, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
    • Someone always has to ruin it don't they? Spawn Man 03:26, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
    • I wonder why the use of dildoes would make him a bad admin... --Phroziac(talk) 20:25, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
  9. Oppose per antidildoism above, and 1400 edits isn't that many. It would have been if the candidate is able to appear level headed and sensible, but the dildo stuff makes me think that this is not the case. Proto t c 11:39, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
    Hi there, could you clarify what aspect of the "dildo stuff" is problematic? If there's a list of forbidden subjects, I'd love to review it so I can avoid an inadvertent transgression. Thanks! - CHAIRBOY (☎) 03:44, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
  10. Oppose it is not a "fallacy" to express the view that the main page should be work-safe, it's an understandable concern. Jonathunder 19:22, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
  11. Oppose due to maturity concerns and a very low edit count. Silensor 20:45, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
  12. Oppose Per the many reasons already given. Sorry. Private Butcher 20:19, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
  13. Oppose, also stemming from the DYK Strap-on incident. See below under Comments. --squirrel 15:05, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
  14. Oppose insufficent edits, insufficent experience, no understanding of WP:NOT. Agriculture 01:58, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
  15. EXTREME OPPOSE Extremely immature, oppiniated-to-the-point-of-neglecting-everyone-else's-opinion, defensive, agumentative, mean, makes personal attacks, allows swearing on his articles & allows gross links too. Will never change my opinion. Thanks,.... Spawn Man 01:20, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
    Howdy! Could you please cite the specific wikipedia rules that forbid swearing and "gross links"? Thanks! - CHAIRBOY (☎) 03:44, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
    For Spawn Man: WP:NOT censored for the protection of minors.--Sean Black | Talk 04:48, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
  16. Analytically opposed After reviewing a few edits and his profile, I find his maturity and objectivity absolutely in question. Not to mention his odd animal fetish seems borderline pathological. Ereinion 02:27, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
    m:Don't be a dick --Phroziac(talk) 02:31, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
    And don't oppose based upon someone's sexual preferences.--Sean Black | Talk 04:48, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
    The corrupt bias of the nominator aside, there's a whole first sentence there about why I opposed, I know you can see it. And secondly, such a "preference" obviously affects his mental and/or emotional state, which makes it very relevent for this kind of forum. Ereinion 07:11, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
    "Corrupt bias"? That sounds rather inflammatory. And, why does being Furry "affect his emotional and/or mental state", anymore than living any sort of lifestyle does?--Sean Black | Talk 21:01, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
    #Object. I object to Bushy tail being elected. Market Man 03:11, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
    user has 12 edits Karmafist 16:16, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
  17. Object I don't think he demonstrates enough tact to be an admin. Borisblue 03:58, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Neutral

  1. Neutral. User seems like a good, level headed editor. I have two things I want to comment about. First, I can't really decide how I feel about the discussion of strap-on dildo being featured on DYK. Second, you commented in this AfD (which I happened to close) "Delete. And remind people that keep votes from no-contribution anons should be deleted as well.". Do you feel that anonymous keep votes should be deleted from the discussion, or simply tagged as unsigned anonymous votes? Ëvilphoenix Burn! 23:19, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
    I feel that they should be tagged as unsigned comments, and given very little or no weight in deciding consensus for the afd; delete was merely an alliteration to the first part. For that afd, it very strongly looked like the anon keep votes were sockpuppets and/or "meatpuppets," directed by the creator of the article, and should not have any weight on the outcome. Reminding that they wouldn't be counted was to hopefully hint to their master that there was no point in keeping using them.  :) Thanks, Bushytails 23:54, 24 October 2005 (UTC).
    • Why just the keep votes? Demi T/C 04:50, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
    When I commented on the AFD in question, the vast majority of keep votes (under titles such as "don't delete", "do not delete", etc) appeared to be fraudulent, while the delete ones did not... hence the use of keep in my description. Thanks, Bushytails 04:56, 26 October 2005 (UTC).
  2. Neutral Looks like a good editor to me, and I know edit counts are not that important, but user has been making edits since 2004-12-30 and only has 1404. That tells me he might not be active enough to be a admin KnowledgeOfSelf | talk. 05:31, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
  3. Neutral. I honestly don't know what to vote on this one, so I'm going to give one of my rare neutral supports. I want to make this clear: while I admit that the entire furry "thing" is a little... well, odd... it plays no part in this RFA. I certainly hope that isn't the case with the oppose votes... Linuxbeak | Talk 22:10, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Comments

  • A chart showing this user's edits along with a total # of edits line and average edits per day line is available here: Image:Bushytails-edits.png. I offer this not as a more refined version of editcountitis, but as just one tool to help evaluate an admin nominee with a somewhat low edit count on Wikipedia. --Durin 21:14, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Use of edit summaries is 95%, 98% over the last 500 edits. Average edits per day is ~4.5 per day, 18.5 per day over last 30 days. --Durin 21:14, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
  • On re-reading his responses on the dildo dicussion, it is pretty eveident that Bushytails is cool under fire and able to get his (valid) point across in a reasonable manner without getting hostile despite the POV attacks he faced. A good quality in an admin, whatever one might think of dildos and whether they belon on the main page. Luigizanasi 07:07, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
  • I Agree with the commenter above. I think Bushytails behaved quite well in the face of much provocation and the descriptions of the incident here show him in a much worse light than warranted. Also, it is good to see somebody who is not afraid to write seriously about sexual practises without moralising or perving.--Martin Wisse 20:52, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
  • I have to disagree with the above two comments. His energic defense of his own article's main page status was a clear conflict of interest and only served to fan the flamewar. His complete rejection of every disagreeing point made does not speak well to his ability to work for consensus. He also repeatedly expresses dislike of cultural decency standards, a view that I can't resolve with Wikipedia's own standards on profanity and graphic images. Sorry Bushytails, you seem to be a good guy, I just don't think you'd make a good admin. --squirrel 15:05, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Questions for the candidate
A few generic questions to provide guidance for voters:

1. What sysop chores, if any, would you anticipate helping with? (Please read the page about administrators and the administrators' reading list.)
A. I have been doing a lot of RC patrol lately (mostly since I've been noticing quite a bit of vandalism slipping through), but as Phroziac mentioned, finding it especially painful trying to revert by hand. I plan to continue doing RC patrol, and hope having the additional abilities of an admin will make this easier, allowing me to directly deal with vandals instead of only (slowly) reverting their edits (or adding appropriate speedy tags) and referring them to an admin if a block is needed. I also hope to help clear out some of the pages with backlogs, such as WP:CV still having pages on it listed as copyvios from over 3 weeks ago. Plus, of course, the general random admin tasks of deleting redirects for moves, protecting/unprotecting pages, fixing copy+paste moves, fixing a typo in the DYK template or two, and so forth, perhaps performing more complex tasks when I gain a bit more experience with my new tasks.
2. Of your articles or contributions to Wikipedia, are there any about which you are particularly pleased, and why?
A. Well, Strap-on dildo would have to be the article I'm most proud of (taking about two weeks and 450 photos to create), but Wikipedia:WikiProject Metalworking would have to be my contribution I'm most pleased with. I was browsing for articles on CNC mills, and found the entire metalworking section was pretty disorganized, lacked many important articles, had no introduction page, and generally was in need of quite a bit of work. I asked some editors I had seen making contributions to the articles about a wikiproject, and all were in favor, so I wrote up a quick project page and started a big list of articles. Since then the wikiproject has gathered a number of active contributors, started developing ties with some other wikiprojects (most notably one for woodworking, created to go with our metalworking one), and made many improvements to metalworking on wikipedia. While our work is by no means finished, with many pages not having proper navigation boxes, the main introduction only partly written, and plenty of articles still on the "improvement needed" list, we have made quite a bit of progress, and I'm very pleased with how it is progressing and what has been accomplished so far.
3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or do you feel other users have caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
A. That would have to be the various conflicts over Strap-on dildo being listed on DYK, which is probably the only thing really counting as a conflict I've been in. In the 12 hours or so it was on the main page, somewhere around 30 people asked for it to be removed (and about an equal number defending it), raising issues of whether popular cultural POVs should censor the main page, whether words considered vulgar in certain cultures are acceptable in an article, and other issues about just about everything other than the article itself. I was prepared for a day spent reverting vandalism, but the page wasn't even vandalized once, and instead I spent the day replying to everyone who had criticism or questions about the "appropriateness" of the article. I don't tend to be prone to stress, and certainly didn't feel much of it during that conflict (and certain people's edits provided comedy relief), although people repeating the exact same arguments (with the exact same fallacies) (and my having to type the same responses) began to get a tad annoying after doing it all day. As to dealing with stress if I were to encounter it in the future, generally just finding something else to do for a while is plenty to give a fresh outlook on the situation. And, of course, remembering that this is all supposed to be fun and help people.  :)
4. There is no #4 yet, but if you have any questions, please ask them! Bushytails 20:15, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
Don't ask youself extra questions - it didn't work for me. Alphax τεχ 10:25, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
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