Talk:Republic of Macedonia

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[edit] Move to FYROM

I reverted the move to F.Y.R. Macedonia, since there was no consensus on it. I'm afraid this led to the disappearance of the page history. Electionworld Talk? 18:44, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Naming dispute

Can someone provide a link/list of countries recognizing Macedonia as "Republic of Macedoia" (to be 106 according to the Macedonia naming dispute page) and those recognizing it as "FYROM"? Alinor 13:34, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shouldn't the "F" in "Former" be Capitalized?

"Macedonia gained its independence peacefully from Yugoslavia in 1991, but Greece's objection to the new state's use of what it considered a Hellenic name and symbols delayed international recognition, which occurred under the provisional designation of "the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia." In 1995, Greece lifted a 20-month trade embargo and the two countries agreed to normalize relations. The United States began referring to Macedonia by its constitutional name, Republic of Macedonia, in 2004 and negotiations continue between Greece and Macedonia to resolve the name issue." - CIA Factbook

When referring to the name that the Greeks prefer, including the word "former," it would seems that it would be proper to capitalize the "F". Note that that is the convention accepted by the CIA, the BBC, IOC, IANA and other major international organizations.4.243.146.157 01:00, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

The short answer is no. See Macedonia naming dispute (with added bolding): "It should be noted that this is purely a provisional reference — describing how the UN calls the state — rather than a determination by the UN of what the state's name should be (hence not a provisional name). This is emphasized by the fact that the expression begins with the uncapitalised words "the former". The UN also did not seek to set a standard for how others should refer to the republic, emphasizing that the reference had been adopted for use only "within the United Nations". The same convention was adopted by many other international organizations and states but they did so independently, not as the result of being instructed by the UN. The United Nations Security Council has emphasized that the reference is purely descriptive and "merely reflected the historic fact that it had been in the past a republic of the former Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia."" -- ChrisO 01:58, 25 March 2007 (UTC)