Talk:Rent (film)

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[edit] Bloopers Section?

"In the song "Over the Moon", Maureen sings about being "tied to the hood of a yellow rental truck, packed in with fertilizer and fuel oil". This is most likely a reference to the Oklahoma City bombing, which didn't take place until April 19, 1995." This is speculation and not fact. It could be an unrelated coincidence or irrelevant considering the discussion a few posts down about the time-frame of "Rent."

"The tune that Roger often plays during 'La Vie Boheme' that Mark says sounds like 'Musetta's Waltz' actually IS Musetta's Waltz(No duh! Mark said it sarcasticly!), a piece from the opera called 'La Boheme' which Rent is based on." Does this necessarilly belong in the bloopers section? It is not specific to the film itself. Actually, that whole section reads more like a fansite than a real wiki page, we should clean this up.Shinku Hisaki 08:28, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I didn't remove that particular section, but I did do a *massive* grammar cleanup on the article. Some phrasing was slightly POV and there were a fair number of run-on sentences, plus one or two that simply didn't read well. 207.216.10.130 10:10, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Is this vandalism or did the directors really do this

In the top of the article it says this:

Many exterior shots were filmed in New York City; the interior and remaining exterior shots were filmed in San Francisco and Oakland. In order to create a set of squatters living in an abandoned building, the producers found a squat in West Oakland, evicted real squatters, and destroyed their home. They then hired a crew to build a fake squat where the real one had once been.

Did they really or is that vandalism? 64.251.182.80 22:26, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

I wondered this as well (notably, my question is below) --JE 15:09, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
I can't find any source confirming this claim, so I have removed the sentences about the squat. --Blenda Lovelace 18:07, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

In order to create a set of squatters living in an abandoned building, the producers found a squat in West Oakland, evicted real squatters, and destroyed their home. They then hired a crew to build a fake squat where the real one had once been. I'm a bit more interested in this event, is there anymore details that explain this? --JE 17:51, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dating

I'm pretty sure that the stage version, like the movie, is set in the late 1980's. Can anyone (the add-or of that line, perhaps) explain why they think otherwise? Lekoman 03:34, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

I always thought that the stage play was set in the 1990s, partly due to all the "end of the millennium" talk, and partly because of Maureen's line about a "yellow rental truck, being packed in with fertilizer and fuel oil", which I always took as a reference to the first World Trade Center bombing (1993) and the Oklahoma City bombing (1995). —Josiah Rowe (talkcontribs) 03:58, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
A couple of other references that -- to me -- set the stage version in the 1990s:
  • "Like Thelma and Louise did when they got the blues...." (song: "Today 4 U"); Thelma and Louise was released in 1991. Curiously, this line went unchanged for the film, and is listed as an anachronism on IMDb.
  • "Newt's lesbian sister?" (song: "We're Okay); Candace Gingrich came into recognition in 1994, after her brother Newt became Speaker of the House.
Fredo (talk) 16:56, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

I don't thinkg there is an exact time for RENT. Jonathan Larson worked on it starting in 1989 (when he and Billy Anderson first came up with the idea) up until 1996 (it was first released in late Jan of 96--Off-broadway and then on Broadway on April 29th of the same year). Obviously certain happenings in the 90s influenced Larson, but there's no time setting given. -- Meghan

Well, no there's no explicit date given in the stage version (except for the passage of the year from one Christmas to the next), but the references mentioned above (as well as all the talk about "the end of the millenium") put it pretty clearly in the 1990s. —Josiah Rowe (talkcontribs) 02:31, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

The stage play makes extensive use of cell phones (especially for Joanne and Benny), which were not in wide use in the late 80s-early 90s. Bigjeremy2k 13:54, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

In the movie, he says Dec. 25, 1989, and then a year later he says, Dec. 25, 1990. So that must be the time.

[edit] Source for Mark?

There is a guy in real life whom the character in RENT named "Mark" is based on --his name is Paul Garrin, who among other things is known for breaking the story with his video of the infamous Tompkins Square Park Police Riot that took place in 1988 in the East Village, one of the events that inspired Jonathan Larson, who lived nearby on Avenue A, to author his play "RENT".

Paul Garrin became known as the "Man with a Video Camera", and could be seen carrying his video camera with him everywhere, often finding himself videotaping the police and the many riots that went down in the East Village during the 80's and early 90's. more about Paul Garrin: http://pg.mediafilter.org

see his famous clip "Man with a Video Camera": rtsp://stream.freethe.net/manwcam.mov or support him by buying his videotape "By Any Means Necessary" which chronicles the housing struggles in the East Village between 1988-1991 that inspired the story behind RENT. http://shadowshop.com go there and click on "video" (or "tapes). You can view a sample clip there, and order the video online.

Very intersting. Thank you for posting it! ▫ UrbaneLegend talk 23:19, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] principal characters section

Idina Menzel's winning a Tony for her role in Wicked is completely irrelevant. Skiasaurus 02:41, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

I agree. Anything that doesn't deal with the actors' relations to the show should be removed. Locano 05:28, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moved here from casting rumors section

Based on the success of the transfer of Broadway musicals to television and the difficulties getting the RENT film off the ground, an NBC television mini-series was planned with Neil Patrick Harris as Mark Cohen, Rikki Lee Travolta as Roger Davis, and Wilson Cruz as Angel. However, the rights were pulled so Chris Columbus could adapt the musical to film featuring much of the original Broadway cast.[1]

Moviesonline seems to post anything, and the author 'David Easton' seems to be involved in astroturfing for one of the named actors, Rikki Lee Travolta (just google for their names) - also check Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Rikki_Lee_Travolta

Ehheh 19:14, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tarp trivia

In the song "Rent", Mark and Roger tear down the tarp on the ceiling. In the next shot immediately after they tear it down, Roger is seen dragging it off camera, not adding it to the trashcan (hence its presence through the rest of the film).

This isn't a blooper. They're tearing the tarp down because there are holes in the glass ceiling above, and they're trying to let the smoke from their fire vent. --Wolf530 (talk) 18:30, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cruft

This article includes a lot of information which, I think, qualifies as fancruft, or material that is too detailed and that generally does not appeal to readers outside of the circle of fans. I think that before anything else is done, this article should be trimmed to include only essential information and details. As is, the article is long and, to be brutally honest, a little over-involved. It has a lot of information to make a great article, and then some, and it's the "then-some" that detracts from the good stuff.

If you'd like any help, feel free to ask me. DroEsperanto 05:27, 20 March 2007 (UTC)