Talk:Remain in Light
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[edit] need a little help
"Featuring funky African rhythms, the album became an influential post punk, world music and New Wave recording". come on people. AFRICA is a CONTINENT. and like any other continent, it's home to a mindboggling range of musical idioms.
now i know for a fact that david byrne was a fan of fela kuti (originator and high-priest of Afro-beat, in nigeria, west african you could say), AND IN FACT david byrne has even said that The Great Curve was supposed to sound like a fela kuti arrangement.
and the Great Curve horn section does kind of resemble fela's afrobeat in form. except the tempo, rhythm, and instrumentation is completely different.
anyway, the "featuring funky african rhythm" passage is LOATHSOME. david byrne has even RANTED against the non-category "world music".128.119.132.42 19:45, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
- Well, good for David. He rants about the CIA breeding AIDS as well. Hmm. Is this the same Fela Kuti who accosted Paul and Linda McCartney in Lagos in 1973 and accused them of stealing his music? Yes, the paragraph was egregious. Fantailfan 11:11, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] POV issue
There's a whole paragraph here which seems badly written, and contains some POV issues, especially - If one plays back the LP at a speed lowered by approximately 20%, the music becomes more expressive and dancable, and for a foreigner that I am the English lyrics become understandable, but the sound of the vocals and some instruments become slightly un-natural. Cnwb 03:29, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- The "…and for a foreigner that I am…" portion has already been removed. However, regarding the tape speeds etc. I'd like to know the source(s) of information for that entire paragraph. Byrne's voice doesn't sound as though it's in a different range from any of his other recordings. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 06:06, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
- I can hear the words fine at normal speed, and the music is perfectly danceable (apart from "The Overload", that is!). Whoever wrote that is probably just unused to African music. it's no more "too fast" than are Fela Kuti or King Sunny Ade. Delete, as OR and POV.Totnesmartin 16:49, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The album cover art description is completely bogus
The album art was done at MIT's Architecture Machine Group, since some of the researchers in that group knew some of the members of the band. (The album liner includes unexplained thanks to a group of user IDs, that being most -- see later -- of the members of the ArchMach team at the time.)
The front cover may in fact have been a concept they came in with; I wasn't involved in that particular image.
However, the back cover -- red planes over mountainside -- was a pre-existing image I created as part of a class project, writing and demonstrating an image-collage tool. The colorized planes and the mountainside were pre-existing images; I overlaid one on the other, somewhat further distorting the colors at the same time.
This is a serious sore point for me, both because they failed to tell me that they liked the image and wanted to use it -- the first I discovered this was when the album hit the store shelves -- and because, to add insult to injury, it turned out that my user ID was left off the list in the liner notes.
I decided it wasn't worth either pursuing legal action or threatening to blackmail the band ("Talking Heads Rips Off Student's Art, film at 11!"), since if they had actually had the courtesy to ask I would have been delighted to let them use this picture.
The important thing here is that the description of the cover art's origin is a myth -- "not verifiable" in Wiki terms. I'm sure you don't want to include all this detail, so what I would recommend is that the paragraph be rewritten to say that the images were produced by the students and staff at ArchMach (incompletely credited in the liner notes; the userID "JKESS" should be added to that list) and _selected_ because they had this set of meanings to the band.
-- Joe Kesselman, keshlam-nospam at comcast dot net (yes, -nospam is part of the user name) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.33.1.37 (talk) 17:55, 14 February 2007 (UTC).
The paragraph, as currently written, does not cite any sources and I propose that we remove it unless/until we can verify the claims. But by the same token,if you wish to add this new information to the article, then we need some way to verify what you've described. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 19:32, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
