Talk:Religion in ancient Greece
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Not sure if it is the right place to put it, but I found this page simply copied in http://www.measuroo.com/rel-G/Greek_religion.php It´s unfare! You work hard on it
who were some of the major gods and goddesses?
Shouldn't this page be more correctly titled "Ancient Greek Religion"? - Lor
This page also apparently needs some major cleanup. There are some factual inaccuracies, vague references, and the subject isn't prefaced very well for being such a prominent area of academic interest. Unfortunately, this article (like Roman religion) will require quite a bit of work to mercilessly edited by you guys, so I'll do this when my class-work lets out, and I'll add it to my watchlist. --Kaelus 11:56, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I changed the (Persecution, revival) section to be a little more neutral. Unless some backing sources/examples of persecution leading to the decline in the religion can be given I feel my edits more accurately reflect the tone of the religion's decline. I was hesitant to do anything with regards to the "revival" aspect as I don't know enough on the subject, but I'm a little dubious as to whether it should be even mentioned in this article at all. I can't see how a few dozen (as the Greek Reconstruction link makes mention) practicers constitutes a "revival" of the religion. -- rsagris
- I trust the present text is clear enough. Septentrionalis 19:23, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
- More like about 10,000 (or more, depending on who you ask) in Greece and probably another 1000 internationally, including at least 500 in the US. Please see the revamped Hellenic polytheism article for more information. I'm not complaining about the current mention, though - the article is on ancient Greek religion, after all. - AdelaMae (talk - contribs) 09:22, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Ya know why the Ancient Greeks didn't last?
These guys didn't last cause they made up this stupid religion. God gave them a chance, prosperous times, and then they blew it. Same with the Sumerians and Romans. When you disrespect God, he gets pissed. Remeber, God created you, but you cannot create a God.--The Republican 00:09, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
- That's one point of view. The diametrically opposing point of view would observe:
- Greece's democracy, her greatest works of art, her most glorious battles, her far-flung colonies were all dedicated to the Olympian Gods.
- When they were doubted, her art declined, her democracies were overthrown, and Greece became subject to the Macedonians and the Romans.
- After the last pagan ruler of Greece died (possibly assassinated by a Christian), the Roman peace was broken up and disappeared.
- After Justinian closed the last pagan institution, the Greek cities were struck by plague, and conquered by the Lombards, the Persians, the Arabs and the Bulgars.
- Coincidence?
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- Well, probably. Septentrionalis 17:07, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
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- Yea. thats true Mr. Pagan. The Republican 15:55, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
The Republican, you obviously know that you have a point of view. However, your point of view is worth nothing to the community. Please refrain from wasting time on Wikipedia, as it's doing something far more grand than arguing over whether the Greeks were punished by God or not. Vancar 18:16, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Unlike the Sumerians and Romans, the Greeks did last. See Greece.
What a ponce you are Vancar. I can see you were happy to waste your time castagating a bloke for having his whack. Isn't this called "discussion". And now I mention it, I saw in the link above the comment:
"A major function of religion [Ancient Greek] was the validation of the identity and culture of individual communities. The myths were regarded by many as history rather than allegory, and their embedded genealogies were used by groups to proclaim their divine right to the land they occupied, and by individual families to validate their exalted position in the social order."
We are all bragarts. RMcPhee 14:06, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Attempt to clean up
I broke up the overview paragraph in to three seperate ones base on the three main ideas Storm63640 20:53, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
What the devil is an "aniconic idol?" Isn't that a bit like saying "protestant pope?" Then again, I wonder if an "aniconic idol" is a statue taken to actually BE the God, and not a representation? I doubt it, but it'd be neat.
[edit] Orphism
Shouldn't their be a link to Orphism somewhere on this page. I find it weird that it isn't mentioned anywhere.
[edit] Polytheisit revivals
After reading through this article, I wonder why the author(s) choose to relate current adherents of polytheist belief in Greece as mainly "transient hedonists." I think this is a gross simplification and rather judgmental. It strikes me that this paragraph should be an intellectual transition point, but it seems to serve as a transition from serious discussion to pedantic views of modern pagans. Perhaps move this paragraph to either a new topic altogether (such as syncretic religion in modern Greece, or the manifestation of ancient belief in Orthodox religion) or post a clean up notice so someone with a background in contemporary Greek religion can know to edit the paragraph.
James LaForest —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jlaforest (talk • contribs) 13:40, 24 January 2007 (UTC).
