Talk:Relatives of Harry Potter

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[edit] Separating articles

Should these be separate articles? If not, why not? -- hike395 05:52, 18 Aug 2003 (UTC)

My opinion: they should. That's how they started out, as well. Who would ever link to "Relatives of Harry Potter"? -- Someone else 05:59, 18 Aug 2003 (UTC)~
I prefer it this way. I don't think we need a thousand-and-one mini-articles on various aspects of the Harry Potter universe. I don't object to the amount of content, of course, but I think that the majority of this material can be consolidated down. If you want to link to a specific relative, you can always link through the redirect pages or link directly to a section of this article. Justin Bacon 08:38, 18 Aug 2003 (UTC)
I lean towards having a single Characters in the Harry Potter Series article with each character having a heading you can create a # link to. See The Wheel of Time for an example. Phil 13:43, Nov 13, 2003 (UTC)
If we're going to have separate articles for Harry Potter characters (i.e. Arabella Figg), than it seems like Lily and James Potter are significant enough to have their own articles. - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 14:15, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
I've just created an article for both of them; James and Lily Potter

Please participate in the discussion at Talk:Harry_Potter#Breaking_apart_articles_of_characters regarding having individual pages for characters rather than group pages. --billlund 21:30, July 17, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Misleading Edit Summary

Sorry, I started out just doing some minor spring-cleaning, and it all snowballed, and I forgot to update the edit summary when I'd finished ;-/ --Phil | Talk 12:43, Apr 19, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] James Potter's house?

Where is it explicitly stated that James was in Gryffindor? I don't remember this being in any of the books. If no one can find factual evidence I'm going to remove it. - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 12:30, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)

J. K. Rowling said James was in Gryffindor in an interview.
Can someone provide evidence of this? It's annoying that Rowling adds to canon in "official" interviews. - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 14:30, Jun 28, 2004 (UTC)
JKR stated that all four "Marauders" were in Gryffindor during the World Book Day Chat on March 4, 2004 (transcript at the Leaky Cauldron), although an error in the transcript leaves Peter Pettigrew's status in doubt. As for your annoyance, it's the nature of the beast I'm afraid and we all just have to put up with it :-) --Phil | Talk 15:12, Jun 28, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Heir of Gryffindor?

Someone added the following to the article under James Potter:

James was an heir of Godric Gryffindor.

I am not aware of any evidence to this effect, much twittering in discussion groups to the contrary. Albus Dumbledore says that "only a true Gryffindor" (my emphasis) could have pulled the sword out of the hat in Book Two, but this is not the same thing at all. The only "heir" mentioned to date in the story is that of Salazar Slytherin and we know who that is. If anyone can substantiate the above assertion, then re-insert it with an explanation! --Phil | Talk 15:53, Jun 11, 2004 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't remember anything to that effect in the book. - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 16:15, Jun 11, 2004 (UTC)
I think when Dumbledore said a "true Gryffindor," he meant someone which passionatly follows the values of Gryffindor house.

It was in book six as well

[edit] Dudley's birthday

Where did you find Dudley Dursley's birthday? The date is not given in the books, which only say that he is a few weeks older than Harry. --slg 14:32, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Dudley

Someone needs to work on the whole "Dudley is athletic," issue. Being an overweight boxer is very different from being athletic which implies being in good physical shape and good at a variety of sports.

Also, someone needs to work on the statement about Dudley having "loving parents." Parents who spoil a child continuosly, let them grow beyond morbidly obese, and let them grow up believing that harming others is a satifactory way to go through life, are not loving, and any psychologist (and sane person, IMO) would agree with this. Maybe it should say they are "spoiling" instead.

[edit] Lily Evens-Potter

Rumors have it that something big will be revealed about Harry's mother Lily in the future; it started me thinking and this is something I came up with that could be true: What if Lily had unknowingly been pregnant the night she died, realy early in the pregnancy, but still it could be true; and when she sacrificed her life for her son Harry, she would have unknowingly sacrificed her unborn child's life too. And if this is true then it would mean another member of Harry's family died by Voldemort's hand and yet another reason for Harry to want to take down Voldemort once and for all.

First of all, that's very bad speculation (I'm sorry, it is.) Second of all, there's no reason for you to post it here.

[edit] Harry's parents death date

I'm curious which book said Harry Potter's parents death date? MechBrowman 03:34, Apr 19, 2005 (UTC)

See Dates in Harry Potter

Harry's Parents died October 31, 1981

none of the books said that, but you can figure it out, I think Belard 19:53, Aug 18, 2005 (UTC)

It Evans, not Evens!

[edit] Mark Evans

Personally, I feel that his section should be removed from the article as he is not a relative of Harry what-so-ever. Hoekenheef 01:42, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

There's currently no other place for him, so I think we'll keep him here until there's another place we can move him to.
I think that he should just have his own page. After all, he doesn't fit anywhere else, but he should not be with relatives of Harry Potter.
I entirely agree. I'm moving him to Trivia for right now though. --Fbv65edel (discuss | contribs) 04:31, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hair colour

It should be quite obvious that the hair colour shown for each character is that described in the books, which in several cases is totally different from the movie portrayal. This is more obvious now some kind soul has provided images. Should this be noted explicitly to prevent people mistakenly altering the entries to suit the images? --Phil | Talk 09:31, May 11, 2005 (UTC)

Good point. Possibly add a note about this at the end of the first section. What does anyone else think? P.S. I've been adding the pics. :) Hoekenheef 10:34, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] James Potter - Bald?

It really annoys me that in the movies, James only has a stubble of short hair.

Where did his wonderful, wonderful hair go?

[edit] Individual pages discussion

It appears that this topic has been discussed before on this page. Please participate in the discussion at Talk:Harry_Potter#Breaking_apart_articles_of_characters regarding having individual pages for characters rather than group pages. --billlund 21:28, July 17, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Merge

I think that this article should be merged with James and Lily Potter. Anyone agree? 89.241.37.214 15:42, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Original Research

Following in the excellent footsteps of the illustrious deathphoenix, I have removed what appears to be Original Research from the article. I cannot understand why the careful and wise editor did not remove these comments his or herself (s/he merely removed as much about the presence of a Potter on the Black Family Tree as s/he could - the editor appears to have something of an animus against the entire subject). I am sure s/he will appreciate my diligence in rectifying what s/he missed. Direct any complaints to deathphoenix. Michaelsanders 19:40, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suggested Replacement Text

[(Apologies for the layout manner). Does anyone have any objections? Will be posted in approximately 24 hours if no one raises any complaints.]

Done. Michaelsanders 22:17, 25 October 2006 (UTC)