Talk:Reign in Blood

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[edit] GA on hold

This article is on hold for GA status because:

The album was the band's first with record producer Rick Rubin, resulting in shorter, faster song structures with clearer production. The album has been hailed by critics as "the heaviest album of all time" and a breakthrough in thrash metal. (Both of these sentences need sources)

Reign in Blood's initial release was delayed due to concerns regarding graphic artwork and lyrical themes. (source this statement)

The album became Slayer's first to enter the Billboard 200, peaking at number 94 and attaining gold status in 1992. (Source this statement)

Hanneman states the band was listening to Metallica and Megadeth, getting bored of the guitar riffs quickly. "If we do a verse two or three times, we’re already bored with it. So we weren’t trying to make the songs shorter—that’s just what we were into." King states that hour long records seem to be the trend; “You could lose this part; you could cut this song completely,” and make a much more intense record, which is what we’re all about. On finishing the record the band met with Rubin who asked “Do you realize how short this is?” The members collectively looked at each other and said “So what?” The entire album was on one side of a cassette; King stated it was "neat", as "You could listen to it, flip it over, and play it again. (Unless all of this is covered by number 3 on the inline reference, these all need a source. If it's all covered by one, then it's ok).

Fix these and it will probably pass. DoomsDay349 19:39, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

  • For your three first suggestions, they all are already referenced further in the article ("Reception" and "Controversy" sections). In case a certain fact is mentioned both in the lead and on a different part, it's preferable that it will be referenced there. As for your fourth suggestion, the quotes are indeed found on these sources. Referencing the entire paragraph with a one reference makes more sense than adding separate references to each sentence. Michaelas10 (Talk) 19:54, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
In that case, GA'd. It's a very good article otherwise. I would suggest a peer review to work towards FA. DoomsDay349 19:56, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Album reviews

The line, "Regardless, critisicms (sic)of the album include low-quality guitar solo recording and repetitive song structures", sounds like it was just stuck there arbitrarily... The word "regardless" as used in this case is almost a non-sequitur; the referenced paragraph describes the overwhelmingly positive reviews of the album, followed by this cryptic line with an external link-reference to some forum with a poorly-written review. The claims of low-quality recording of guitar solos and repetitive song structures is very dubious as well; Slayer's solos are famously unique -- what is the basis for saying their recording quality in RiB is "low"? Likewise, the album is infamous for its brevity and fast pace; this very article quotes King indicating that they didn't want to repeat a verse or guitar riff more than two or three times. I propose deleting this line as it seems to bring the quality of the article down. -Daniel Villalobos 16:45, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Removed. M3tal H3ad 01:22, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
The album wasn't perfect, so I think we should add some minor criticisms. I'm sorry if you didn't find that addition flowing, maybe it should be split to a separate paragraph? Also, Sputnik is often seen as a reliable source due to its approval process, and I don't think we should ignore its comments unless a more reliable source providing criticisms could be found. Michaelas10 (Talk) 10:51, 3 March 2007 (UTC)