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Contents 1 Concern 2 Questionable 3 Left-handed? 4 Princesses Article 5 Consistency: Mercury's Profile as a template 6 Clean up 7 Archery 8 POV? 9 Image 10 First Appearance 11 Fire Attack 12 Rei's school 13 Vow of chastity 14 DUB 15 Music storage 16 Rei's sexuality 17 Good article?

[edit] Concern

The article seems exact same text from http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/7900/rei.htm Taku 18:26 May 14, 2003 (UTC)

No, no, no. This is a possibly copyright violaton. Don't edit this one unless such concern is wiped out. -- Taku 00:32 19 May 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Questionable

"Yūichirō Kumada, a good-natured vagrant..."

What is the source for this? Doesn't episode 34 (Japanese) imply that Yuuichiro is not a vagrant, since he has access to a place to stay owned by his parents? Ken Arromdee 19:30, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

No, that was the 34th English episode.  Denelson83  21:35, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Left-handed?

New change said judging by attacks she's left-handed. I can only assume this is referring to how she holds her wand? Even so, drawing on an official source for this info would make more sense. There might be a variety of reasons why she'd hold something in a certain hand. Do the other Senshi hold it in their left hand? Perhaps Rei wants her right free to throw holy tags with? Tyciol 05:39, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

I doubt it if you're working off of the Tokyopop manga which was flipped... --Hitsuji Kinno 07:55, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Princesses Article

Just so you all know, I've made a new article at Princesses (Sailor Moon). The merge notices are gone now, because that group of stubs has been cleared up. Now that it's done, please feel free to edit and cite to your heart's content! ^_^ -Masamage 20:52, 27 July 2006 (UTC) Bold text

[edit] Consistency: Mercury's Profile as a template

Because of the problem of consistency between Senshi profiles, it's been proposed that we make one profile into a template for all the others. Currently, that one profile is Ami Mizuno's. Any changes to the general format of Senshi articles should be made there, and then copied to all the others. This plan is very preliminary, however, so for more information or to make a comment, please see the appropriate section of the series Talk page, so that everyone else can see what you have to say!

So far I have edited the hero box and lead section, and have added a Sailor Mars section. Changes that remain to make it consistant with Sailor Mercury are to change the 'Personality' section to a 'Profile', containing personality as well as history, school, family situation, and other info. This should be followed by 'Other forms', which in her case will mention only Princess Mars. The Statistics should then be updated to match Ami's--anything that doesn't fit can be written in prose in the Profile. Powers should be moved up into the next slot and reformatted, "Fandom" should be removed entirely (it is not encyclopedic), and the 'character' section should be divided between the Profile and a new 'Variations' section.

It's extensive! But it's mostly a reorganization, and little if any information will be lost. I think it will improve the entire Sailor Moon area of Wikipedia to have all the article match up in this way. If you have comments about Rei's article specifically, post them here; if you have comments about the entire Consistancy project, post them in the series Talk page as stated above. Thank you, everyone! --Masamage 21:57, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Phew! Okay, I've done everything on that to-do list except for reorganizing the Personality and Character sections into Profile and Variations sections, as seen in the Ami Mizuno article. I'm unfamiliar with the exact names and appearances of the attacks, so that section needs a lot of help, especially the PGSM bit. I'll attack the remaining changes later--it's time for a break. o_o --Masamage 22:46, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it's done. I hope that nobody is bothered by my having made such extensive edits--if you are, please say so here, and do remember that all previous versions are archived! Thanks. ^___^ --Masamage 00:19, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clean up

I only did clean up for the stats (added refs too). I noticed someone tried to add in Strong Point-- this is from the Irwin boxes, which we have no references for! In either case doing the stats in full will be complex because the categories are different from manga and dub... Debatable on whether to keep dub stats anyhow. Just a few more to go!--Hitsuji Kinno 07:54, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

That was me - Ami had a strong point, so I figured Rei must have one, somewhere. How the heck do you reference a toy box anyway??? - Malkinann 08:07, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm working on it. *grins* I requested someone with the toy boxes scan the back of the toyboxes and then post them. I know I'm nuts, but I used to do this for my own Sailor Moon pages. I said if they couldn't scan them in for whatever reason to give us the UPC codes for the boxes (which are kind of like ISBNs for the book references). Then we can figure out dates and treat it kind of like a book. ^_^ I also asked them to verify the stats if they could, though I told them we would prefer a scan. (I gave them a little incentive too.) ^^;; A bit naughty, but since I'm after primary references it's not a bad thing. --Hitsuji Kinno 22:15, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Archery

I remember reading somewhere that archery is a traditional skill of a miko - this might be the reason why Rei's in the archery club, and the tradition behind Mars Flame Sniper. Would this [1] be a suitable reference to say so? - Malkinann 08:07, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

I may be going out on a limb here, but there is some consistency here. Another famous miko, the character Kikyo from the InuYasha series is also a well established archer. -SaturnYoshi ^{THE VOICES} 10:38, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, it does make me feel this is probably true, but I don't think it's a good reference because it's obviously a fan page and doesn't say where it got this information. At Miko#In fiction it says that "manga and anime typically portray the miko as a heroine who fights evil spirits, demons, and ghosts, often with magical or supernatural powers. In such stories miko are generally depicted as being skilled in some variety of martial art, especially the use of a traditional Japanese weapon such as yumi (longbow), tanto (knife), or any of the various Japanese swords". So this may be a traditional skill of fictional miko, but not real ones; that'll take some research to figure out. --Masamage 20:20, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] POV?

Rei is the traditional Japanese beauty--delicate features, pale skin, and long, shining dark hair.

I think this is a touch POV. Also physical descriptions shouldn't be needed if there are images on the page. What exactly is the point of adding it? People can see/judge for themselves and see if they agree. Plus the physical descriptions often change version to version and over time and sometimes just image to image. (Not to mention the outfits...) --Hitsuji Kinno 22:19, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

I understood it to be part of the intention behind her character design. Also, how many different places are you going to post your complaint over the descriptions? :P --Masamage 23:32, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Luna even suspects that she could be the Moon Princess because of her beauty, elegance, and spiritual devotion. It's a pretty big deal... Even if Luna suspects every female of being the Moon Princess early on.  ;) - Malkinann 05:26, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image

Rattleman, Why did you change the image of her attacking?Lego3400: The Sage of Time 01:24, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

My guess is because it shows more than just her face. --Masamage 03:25, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] First Appearance

I just watched Act 2 of PGSM and Rei appears at the end, right before the next episode preview. Eventhough Rei isn't formally introduced until Act 3, Ami wasn't formally introduced until Act 2 and yet her page says she first appears in Act 1, so I'm going to keep the two consistent. Kakashi-sensei 12:01, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Great catch! I had totally forgotten about that. Thank you for fixing it. :) --Masamage 22:48, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Ami is mentioned in act one and is seen in class Lego3400: The Sage of Time 17:00, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Her article is already fixed. --Masamage 19:45, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fire Attack

Although her attack is to shoot fire, it's the Fire of the Forces of Good, but the villians that shoot fire is the Fire of the Forces of Evil. What is the episode where in the beginning, Sailor Mars shot out a fire to make the other Sailor Senshi dance around in it? --PJ Pete

You really need to stop asking these mundane questions. Anyway, I think you're talking about Episode 43/38, "Is Usagi Going it Alone? The Sailor Warriors Get Into a Big Fight" or "Fractious Friends". All the Senshi are chasing Moon until Mars uses a fire attack that backfires, setting the ground on fire below them. The Senshi move their feet fast to avoid the fire, or what you would call "dancing". Once again, please stop with the questions. -- RattleMan 23:49, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rei's school

According to WikiMoon and its own page, Rei's school is based on the real life school, Toyo Eiwa Jogakuin. So I'm thinking that "T*A" is just the pronunciation of "T" from the first word and "Ei" from the second word, and does not, in fact, stand for anything. -SaturnYoshi ^{THE VOICES} 09:12, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Nice; that sounds very plausible. I'd love to know whether or not the dub really called it Thomas Aquinas School, too. --Masamage 21:22, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't think that her school was ever mentioned by name in the dub. -SaturnYoshi ^{THE VOICES} 08:27, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Maybe the manga? Maybe some random fanfic. X) --Masamage 08:34, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

The manga only calls it T.A. Nuns run it, maybe the dub got there the idea for calling it (if they did) the Thomas Aquinas School. Raystorm 14:55, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vow of chastity

So, wow. Not only is Rei really anti-boy in the manga, but according to Act 36, at some point she actually took a vow of chastity to Princess Serenity--I checked the kanji, and they definitely mean 'chastity', not something ambiguous like 'honor'.

The only time I can think of in the manga where she has anything like a relationship is Casablanca Memories, but that's before the Dream arc, during which she seems to remember her pledge for the first time. Does she ever act interested in boys during the Stars arc? If not, this can be considered a solid fact, and certainly adds an interesting level to her character. --Masamage 01:47, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Wow... That explains alot... (I wish i could read kanji and everything). That does sound really important. --Lego3400: The Sage of Time 22:20, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Heh, I used a kanji dictionary. Also, apparently in the equivalent anime episode she talks about wanting to be single forever? I haven't seen that, but didn't you watch it recently? Do you remember that? --Masamage 22:43, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

does it say why she gave serenty a vow of chastity or why Serenty would want her to? ♥Eternal Pink-ready for love♥ 22:44, 2 March 2007 (UTC

I got the impression that it was mostly her decision, rather than something Serenity asked her to do. --Masamage 22:46, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DUB

should we mention how the dubs made Rei out to be much meener then she was in the original like when Usagi ask her to be her teacher she sayed she didnt want to agin because she wasnt listning in the dub she sayid shes hopeless and she dosn't desurve darien they made her out to be a right female dog in dub ♥Eternal Pink-ready for love♥ 00:34, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Music storage

A number of image songs featuring Rei's character have been released.^[1]

From the original anime, sung by Michie Tomizawa.

• "Eien no Melody" (Eternal Melody) - From the first series.
• "Watashi no Hito Gingahen" (My Boyfriend, Arranged by the Stars) — From Sailor Moon R
• "Honoo no Sogekisha (Flame Sniper)" — From Sailor Stars

From the English anime, sung by Sandy Howell:

• "Call My Name (and I'll be There)"
• "Nothing At All"
• "Oh Starry Night" (replacing "Eien no Melody" in the episode it was featured in)
• "Who Do You Think You Are?"

From the musicals, sung by various actresses:

• "Honoo no Messenger"(Messenger of Flame)

From the live-action series, sung by Keiko Kitagawa (who also released a character album):

• "Hoshi Furu Yoake" (Stars Fall at Dawn)
• "Sakura Fubuki" (Cherry Blossom Storm) - Features in Act 23.

[edit] Rei's sexuality

I reverted the addition of information about the fan-debate over whether Rei is a lesbian for a few reasons. One is that these articles were full of that kind of stuff a few months ago, and it always gets really weird really fast, with mentions of specific who-on-who pairings and so forth. Second, if you boil that section down to its core points, it says "Some people think Rei must be a lesbian. But she's not." All this does is introduce a point (without any sources) and then refute it (also without any sources. The series never says she's not). Third, when characters in this show are gay, we make a point of it (a la Michiru, Haruka, Fisheye, Zoisite, Kunzite), so there's really no worry about people thinking that maybe Rei is, since we never said she's not. Finally, it felt a little bit like undue weight.

That is my story. Just thought I would explain. --Masamage 03:18, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

• Wow, that stuff was still in here? I should keep closer scrutiny on these articles. ^_^ JuJube 03:27, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Only for five minutes or so. It was early evening, my husband was at a meeting, and I was monkey-refreshing my watchlist and inbox. ^_^;; --Masamage 05:49, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

hasnt the anime always portrade her as straight? ♥Eternal Pink-Ready to fight for love and grace♥ 18:22, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Only the anime. She's pretty asexual in the other two series. --Masamage 18:30, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Good article?

Are there any significant differences between this and Ami Mizuno that might stop it from also being rated GA class? --Masamage ♫ 17:18, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Guess not. Nominating. :) --Masamage ♫ 17:17, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Woah, I missed this! Maybe we should discuss GA noms at WT:SM in future. We've got nothing on her dub personality, and there was a romance between Rei and Jadeite in the musicals, and there was allegedly an implication that Jadeite had the hots for Rei in the manga. -Malkinann 01:06, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Sou ka. Well, it took three weeks to get reviewed last time, so we should be able to get some good work done before then. The romance mention should be really easy, just a slightly altered copy-pasted from Ami. And yes, in the manga Jadeite says that he was attracted to her from the first time he saw her. --Masamage ♫ 01:33, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Where in the manga? Can you find it? Raye's meanness:

• http://www.smuncensored.com/comparison.php?episodeid=99
• http://www.sailormoon.org/faq/smfaq7.shtml "The explanation for Mars having the wand was _completely_different_. She was _given_ the wand by Sailor Moon, and pointed out to the other Scouts that if they really hated each other, Sailor Moon would never have trusted her with it. Sailor Moon certainly did not leave it in her room by mistake, and they were _not_ arguing over this at the end of the episode. Yes, this means that Mars doesn't hate Moon, exactly the opposite from what this _bad_ dub implied." -Malkinann 01:43, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Act 3. Alex Glover's translation is that Jadeite finds her unconscious and says, "So beautiful. I've been attracted to her since I first saw her, this girl." In the Mixx version it's "There's something special about her" or something like that. Anyway, she toasts him in the end. --Masamage ♫ 06:11, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I took a shot at incorporating the meanness stuff. How's it look? --Masamage ♫ 16:39, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

• Snerks at Jadeite's tragic love* Yes, that looks better now. Some of the citations may need cleaning up (extra info added to them), but I suspect we'll have plenty of time for that. Incidently, I think WP:GA is supposed to have a system where you list one, you rate one.-Malkinann 00:33, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

• Optimally, yes. I'm not very confident about rating things, but last time I did Ben 10 in exchange for our posting. I just haven't found another one that easy yet. :P I am keeping an eye out, though. --Masamage ♫ 18:45, 8 April 2007 (UTC)