Talk:Regina neighbourhoods
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[edit] Local Issues
Why can we not have a local issues section on the main page ?--206.163.235.114 22:05, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
This page is redundant and should be moved to the main page and included under local issues. It make more sense to have it in that category, as a neighbourhoods section would be limited, mostly stats, and there is not much difference between Uni Park and Rochdale.I ask that you stop removing these remarks. I understand that they don't jive with your "glass is 1/2 full" attitidue but try to have an open mind.--Mayor Quimby 15:36, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
There isn't much difference between University park and Rochdale? The two areas are at completely different ends of the city! You should try and keep an open mind as well. It's pretty obvious that you have a glass half empty attitude. --Reginaguy 06:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Sources
I came across this page [1], which discusses demographical information for each neighbourhood. Statistical information is fine, but hopefully there are other sources that provide more substance (perhaps unique characteristics of a neighbourhood, history, amenities, etc). Does anyone know of any? Perhaps neighbourhood association websites? --Kmsiever 19:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- Hi Kmsiever! I tried to find neighbourhood information for but it seems the Albert Park and Lakeview community association websites don't have a lot of the information for which we are looking. I didn't look for Cathedral Area yet -- intend to look again before the weekend -- I'll let you know. --Mumun 無文 17:33, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Yeah, I looked through the Lakeview site yesterday and didn't find anything worthwhile either. --Kmsiever 19:21, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
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I told you guys that this section is redundant and should be converted to a local issues section on the main page but your self serving attitudes prevented you from seeing this fact. There is no reason to have a neighbourhoods section. I hope in the future you show the intelligence to follow my suggestions. I also resent be called a troll or being limped in with an anon ip address, unless you have proof of the fact then please refrain from either form of name calling.--Mayor Quimby 23:30, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Perfect! I used it to write up a section. Thanks. --Kmsiever 22:27, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Wha?
What is Uni Park and what is Rochdale? Are those neighbourhoods in Regina? I think not. I second (or third?) the notion that the new article on Regina Neighbourhoods be expanded to include information other neighbourhoods. There are neighbourhoods worthy of a few words. Then that article should be summarised in a short paragraph which should appear as a section in the Regina, Saskatchewan article (as per Friesguy on the other talk page). This way the NC section is not 'buried away from site'. Posted the same message on the other article. -- Mumun 無文 15:40, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
If you had first hand knowledge of Regina you would know that those are areas of town. I feel your lack of knowledge should disqualify you from editting this article. That and your continued wiki-terrorism.--Mayor Quimby 15:45, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Why do you people insist on filling this article with lies?
"The murder rate increased by 33% in this 153-block area containing approximately 10,500 people between November 2005 and November 2006. Other violent crimes have also increased: third degree assault (20%), robberies (35%), kidnapping (25%), arson (50%)." How many times must I say, this is FALSE! It's misleading and untrue!! Are you people not listening? Or are you purposely trying to vandalise the page? Those stats are for the entire city of Regina, not just for that "153-block area". --Reginaguy 05:55, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Also, you people claim that only posting negative stats, and using percent increases when the murder rate only went up by two %^$%#^ing people is to offset optimistic bias, but you vandals are doing the exact same thing! You're creating an pessimistic bias! This is rediculous, the article isn't your personal soap box, stick to unbiased facts --Reginaguy 06:00, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
One last thing, that part about the murder rate increasing due to the police caring less about 'crimes against the person' is a total joke.. How can you prove a statement like that? Who would actually believe that police care more about a stolen car than a murder victim? Get real.. And even if that was the case, how can you prove that is the reason for the increase? Mayor Quimby, I assume you're the same person that trolls the Regina section at skyscraperpage.com, please stick to unbiased information --Reginaguy 06:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- Wow, you really get worked up by the truth. As for ranks of crime fighting by RPS, its on their website under priorities. Give it a read,Booster guy. --Mayor Quimby 13:07, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
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- There is nothing in the police report previously cited that says anything about a national trend, nor is thee any comparative data for Nov 2005 and Nov 2006. In fact there is no data whatsoever comparing anything from 2005 with 2006. --Kmsiever 14:41, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Leave it alone, I'll add the stats can national trends when time permits. The crime stats are based on yearly trends and do show percentage changes year over year. So just go deal with Mormon and Lethbridge stuff, things you seem to undertsnd, You don't understand this.
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--Mayor Quimby 15:14, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
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- If you're not going to include the source now, then don't include the claim. The crime states in the currently cited source do not show what you claim they show. There is no data comparing Nov 2005 and Nov 2006. If there is, please point out which page and exact data before reverting. Otherwise you are making unverified claims. --Kmsiever 15:24, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
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There is a little thing called common knowledge. Even though you seem to lack any. Leave it alone your wiki-terrorism is getting old and is not open minded. Like I said deal with your other anal retentive articles, wacko !--Mayor Quimby 15:47, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
It seems to me the mayor Quimby seems to want to be remembered as a troll, I think we should just let him be as he is with his angry and rude attitude and let him fade into the sunset.Friesguy 16:46, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- Mayor Quimby, don't tell me I get worked up by the truth, because you don't seem to know anything about it. Read my post. I clearly stated why the numbers were not the truth. It is not true that murder increased by 33% in that 153 block area. Murder increased by 33% (a measly two murders BTW) for the entire city of Regina, that's why I removed it, it was misleading and false. How can you claim I have a booster agenda? Did you notice how i kept the parts about North central having a relatively high crime rate? And the part about it being labled "Canada's Worst Neighbourhood" by Macleans? I left those parts in because they're true. I removed the figures because they were false and misleading, and I removed your classy bit of input for the same reason. Get over yourself. --Reginaguy 17:19, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- I also clearly explained why you can't say the higher murder rate is due to "crimes against the person" being lower priority. But maybe I have to state the reasons in an easy to read list so you can understand.
- 1) First of all, overall, "crimes against the person" are down significantly, so your point is moot.
- 2) You can't prove that the higher murder rate is directly related the priority ranking
- 3) Just because the police are prioritizing other crimes doesn't mean they're "sidelining" murder investigations
- 4) Ask yourself, why does anyone get murdered in Regina? It's almost always related to drugs or gangs, which are on the police's top priorities. So, in a sense, they are prioritizing "crimes against the person". They could put "Murder" as their top priority to make you happy, but what would that mean? How exactly do you prevent murder without going after its causes. Saying murder is the top priority would be an empty gesture. The police know what they're doing.
There, so think before you post from now on. We already proved you wrong countless times on skyscraperpage.com, so you decided you'd come here to try and convince a fresh group of people? Why do you have to be so grumpy? Maybe you should stick to editing articles you know something about, perhaps you can contribute to the pessimist article. --Reginaguy 17:19, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi 206.163.235.114 / Mayor Quimby !! No original research is allowed on Wikipedia. --Mumun 無文 17:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Mayor Quimby (or anonIP person) is also trying to stop any changes on the Pat Fiacco article. An attempt to block anyone from editing was attempted by mayor quimby but rejected by a wiki admin. It seems the only opinion that matters is his with no changes allowed. Also as he criticizes kmseiver for being from Lethbridge while it interesting that one of his anon ips is listed as being from Saskatoon "so its do as I say not as I do?" Friesguy 17:31, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Reginaguy- I edited the part so that it was clear that the crime rate increased in the city as a whole and that a high percentage took place in NC.
As for the name calling and accusations of being some else or a troll or a sock puppet, it would be appreciated if the name calling was halted, it is childish. As per admin request please discuss any revert or edits prior to altering the article.--Mayor Quimby 23:33, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
I did a small amount of editing and removed the statement that fiacco met with first nations leaders only twice in the 6 years of service, there is no proof of statement. Friesguy 19:54, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Reverts and sources
I have sourced some disputed points from history and reverted some of the stats. I believe they are important to the article. If you wish to change any parts. Please discuss, I am willing to alter portions but whole sale reverts are not necessary.Thank you--206.163.235.114 02:59, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
- We have discussed it. A hundred times. See above, and on the Regina talk page. But you already know this. We've been going in circles for two months on this. --Kmsiever 04:19, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
I have used primary sources, all the information is relevant to the article. What is your problem ?--206.163.235.114 06:15, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
