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[edit] Wikiquote page for Reggie

All the quotes from Reggie are great, but they should be under a Wikiquote page, they don't belong in a Wikipedia article.

[edit] Reggie is Awesome

I had no idea Bush had not fumbled until Fresno St. That is incredible. I think he is by far the best plyer in college football, and will make a fine pro. He will certainly be the first draft pick, you can't pass up a player and playmaker like that. Congratulations Reggie, and good luck against Texas in the Rose Bowl. One question, was he adopted? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.2.220.85 (talk • contribs) 2005 December 11.

According to this he considers his stepfather to be his true father. He thanked him during his Heisman acceptance speech for taking him in at the age of two. –Meegs 17:12, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

He fumbled before Fresno St. I believe, at UCLA as a freshman. J. Charles Taylor

The Houston Texas made a huge mistake by passing on Bush. Just his star power alone was enough to justify taking him with the first pick.

I don't think it was that they "passed" on him, the initial reports seemed to indicate that they offered to Bush, who held out for more money, then offered to Mario Williams who was happy to sign right away, thus leaving Bush out. J. Charles Taylor 08:29, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Rose Bowl

The last sentence almost seems to imply that Bush is solely responsible for USC's, which is purely speculative at best, and biased at worst. I suggest removing it, since the second-to-last sentence demonstrates the mistake's importance, which is the point of including said information.

I agree. Being a Texas Longhorn fan that paragraph most of it is POV. Putting all the blame on Bush. Bush is not best remembered for that. In my point of view, he is best remembered for having less than 100 yards in that game. Also in my POV, the 2005 Rose Bowl game is probably best remembered by one player and it is Vince Young. To sum it up my POV reply, yes the POV paragraph needs to be changed or get rid of. ;-P --J. Nguyen 02:46, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
Um, FYI, "Still Bush had an impressive performance, amassing a total of 279 all-purpose yards (82 rushing yards, 95 receiving yards, 102 kickoff return yards) and one touchdown scored." He had more than a hundred yards on the day. Besides, I was really only concerned about the last paragraph. ProfessorFokker
Of course, I was referring to rushing yards. Sorry for not clarify. --J. Nguyen 03:58, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image?

Can we get a fair-use or copyleft image? A cover of Sports Illustrated is probably the best bet. See Vince Young for examples. Harro5 08:23, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Apparently we can't do that. Go figure. - Davis21Wylie 04:16, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
How about the cover of NCAA Football 07? We could say it shows that his football prowess earned him the coveted spot, one that is only available once a year. --Bobak 23:05, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure if that is ok. I think we can use that image for the page about the game, but not this one. However, a low-res cover of a Sports Illustrated would be ok. --Deville (Talk) 00:02, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Forward lateral"

(which he actually threw forward, an illegal play)

I removed this line. The official ruling (that is, the one made on the field) is that it was a lateral. Even if analysts disagree (not that there were any sources cited), you can't present their analyses as fact. TaintedMustard 13:32, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

I do not understand this link with Drue Dobson.

Until someone can present a citation stating more than one expert believes that the ball went forward, I am removing the phrase "which some believe went forward." The game can be purchased and viewed on DVD, and the in-game commentary makes it clear through replays that the ball did not seem to go forward. I do think it's that any time something odd and unexpected like this happens in football, such as the Music City Miracle, the Immaculate Reception, and the Bush Push, the only claim to compromise the validity of the event is that it violated the rules in some way.J. Charles Taylor 08:26, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

If you want sources that I was right go to Yahoo SportsCHernandez 21:09, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Legacy" section

Is it really appropriate for a still-active player to have a "legacy" section? I think it needs to be broken down into something more fit for this case. ♠ SG →Talk 15:39, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hold Out

how about a hold out section because this guy has to be the greediest player ever he wants number 1 money when he wasn't the number one pick and now threatening to sit out this year how can you do that to a city that is counting on you people lost everything and he is going to bitch about a few million how selfish is that ?

Let Reggie Bush do what he wants. He isnt fully a Saints yet if he didn't sign a contract yet. If he goes back to USC, we will see if he can still do amazing stuff and plus, it will boost up his draft stock. Let Reggie do what he wants, hes a grown man.

--JT55 06:12, 25 July 2006 (UTC)JT55

A) He can not, I repeat - can not, go back to USC to play football. By declaring for the draft and hiring an agent, he forfeits his eligibility. B) This section has become obsolete because he signed a 6 year deal with the Saints as of 7/30/06.

To be honest with you, I really think he SHOULD sit out the next year. Let's see how good this team is without him, hopefully in the next draft they get someone who has a better attitude than this greedy piece of crap, also known as Reggie Bush. Pardon me if I offended anyone, but if you have the hopes of a whole city like New Orleans sitting on your shoulders, then you shouldn't be acting like a child, who just can't get what they want. Like how he's been acting this past year. I was hoping that he would've never gotten up from that hit he took in the first few minutes of the game against the Eagles, I think is who they played. Correct me if I'm wrong. Halo3master5000 09:30, 05 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Introduction"

I'm not sure this newly added section is necessary, and the fact that it's just quotes from what I assume is a copyrighted article makes me unsure it should be included at all. Mishatx 04:18, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NFL Debut

This section is useless since it has conflicting statements throughout. Reggie's "first interception" is listed among his important stats. He is said to have scored a game winning toughdown, then later it is said he has nver scored one. If this section can't be kept up to date and properly edited with correct data, it should be removed. Otherwise, the entire article has no credibility.

^---You misread the section. He scored a touchdown on a punt return, but has not yet scored a touchdown running the ball or receiving the ball. Those are different stats, and the statements do not conflict

[edit] NPOV

If this article is truly to be neutral, it should contrast all of the mention of his hype and "matrix-type" moves with the fact that he has been a bust as an NFL first rounder through half a season. I tried to add some things along this line but some idiot keeps reverting immediately, even though my statement that he had 208 yards rushing through 8 games with a 2.6 yd average was factual.70.239.89.127 22:15, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] This Sentence makes no sense

"Bush has also already set an amazing record. He is the second youngest NFL player with the largest money in endorsement deals this early in his career, amounting to roughly 5 million dollars, but also sure to grow."

Not only is it grammatically very bad, it is pretty much nonsensical. Does this mean he is the second youngest player to get 5 million in endorsements? And there's no source. Very bad. Also the play he scored the touchdown on, as referenced in the last line of the article, was a double reverse, which is different than a traditional reverse.

Reggie Bush's touchdown play was a single reverse. The wikipedia article on the reverse has a section explaining the difference between the two. If the quarterback hands it to a player, who hands it to another player, it's a reverse. A third handoff needs to be made for it to be a double reverse. On Bush's touchdown, Brees handed the ball to Colston, who handed the ball to Bush running the other way. The ball changed direction once, so it was a single reverse. Had a fourth player been involved, it would be a double reverse. Because the double reverse is so complicated, it rarely works and it's rarely tried. Only one has been attempted this season, by the Patriots. Brady to Maroney to Caldwell to Jackson. I think the article needs a whole lot of improvement, but not there. 69.140.175.236 23:38, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

This is maybe the worst Wikipedia I've ever read. Terrible tone, and not objective at all. Some examples:

"....and electrified the sold out Louisiana Superdome." Electrified, you say?

"Bush had a decent performance" Opinion, no? One could also say he lost the game for the trojans with his ill advised lateral.

"The 2005 season was electrifying" Was it now? Opinion?

"When head coach Pete Carroll recruited Bush for Southern California, he envisioned using Bush as a five-way threat." I can't imagine how that would make sense to anyone.

"The freshman quickly proved he could carry, catch, throw and return the ball with college's elite." He only threw the ball a handfull of times for less than 100 yards.

"Many Texan fans booed and it is reported that some cried on draft day when The Texans passed on Bush" I've never heard anything about anyone crying. No source on that one either. Reported be who?

I could go on and on.

Somebody should fix this thing

Yep, I agree with you completely. Anonymous editors have had free reign on this article with the exception of simple vandalism being reverted, hence you get a jumbling of unsourced claims and opinion throughout the article in a non-NPOV manner. It needs severe cleanup. VegaDark 08:16, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

This ENTIRE article is written on about a 4th grade, sub-USA Today (see: USC grad) level--it's incredibly biased as well. There is scant mention of Bush's tremendously "disappointing", and "underperforming" rookie season (nagging NCAA inquiries, perhaps?) where he was flat out beaten for offensive ROY by BOTH his most recent Rose Bowl foe in Vince Young AND his ever-present cross-town nemesis in Maurice Drew--ANY attempt to edit/add this article (to interject SOME truth) gets DELETED!! Basically, this article reads like some star-struck, pre-pubescent fan letter to an over-hyped, overpaid flash-in-the-pan. This article is blog fodder, no more...76.171.120.59 07:32, 6 January 2007 (UTC)Truth

While I don't disagree that the article needs work, I do think that calling his rookie campaign "tremendously disappointing", and saying he 'underpreformed' is going to far. But this article needs lots of work.Highly Calculated 05:26, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture (Saints)

Needs a good picture (Saints) Dcr1256 19:06, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

No, It doesn't. The article already meets the GA requirements in terms of pictures. Using pictures from Bush's career is almost impossible, since the NFL has a strict copy right on thiner of pictures, --  ShadowJester07  ►Talk  20:30, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tapes

How the hell did they get their hands on tapes over a year old?68.167.0.105 21:04, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Davidleman566 03:58, 28 January 2007 (UTC)davidleman566 It should be added that in the NFC championship it was Reggie Bush who was taunting the bears after the 88 yard run. Pointing his finger at Brian Urlacher as he was running into the touchdown.

[edit] Reggie's Girlfriend

Reggie Bush is currently dating Ciara the singer. I think that this should be added to his page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 168.229.181.19 (talk) 17:41, 26 March 2007 (UTC).

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