Talk:Rebeca Martínez
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(Tasteless uninformed rant previously here now consigned to history pending votes for deletion) - Nunh-huh 07:43, 13 Feb 2004 (UTC)
There was nothing tasteless about the deleted text. It was an opinion that may have POV toward the doctor's motives but that is allowed and it was in the discussion page for the article. It should be restored after the vote - Texture 14:56, 13 Feb 2004 (UTC)
My text from VfD - The talk page you suggest deleting discusses possible selfish motives on the part of the doctors but I do not find it worthy of deletion under any existing guidelines. I had questions myself when I heard that the fully formed head (if not the body) of a siamese twin was going to be severed, and thus killed for a reason other than to save the life of the other twin. Rather than delete the text, it should be discussed. Give that person a reason why you don't agree with their evaluation of the surgery. - Texture 15:00, 13 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I understood that it was to save her life. "Her second head had a partially-developed brain, ears, eyes and lips, and if it had continued to grow it would have prevented Rebeca's brain from developing." [1] - The second head was growing faster than the other. fabiform | talk 15:08, 13 Feb 2004 (UTC)
The piece on the CNN site did not mention it saving her life. Instead, it said that it would soon prevent her from the ability to lift her head since the bodyless twin's head was developing faster. (If the twin was developing faster, that indicates that it was a viable brain and could think. The head that was removed was alive.) - Texture 18:09, 13 Feb 2004 (UTC)
From VfD
- Talk:Rebeca Martínez just some guy with some studies (I presume), talking of what an outarage or whatever, was the killing of this baby. --Antonio Obscure reality Martin
- delete, the article is taking shape but this talk page is just a rant about doctors killing twins fabiform | talk 09:29, 13 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Keep - The talk page you suggest deleting discusses possible selfish motives on the part of the doctors but I do not find it worthy of deletion under any existing guidelines. I had questions myself when I heard that the fully formed head (if not the body) of a siamese twin was going to be severed, and thus killed for a reason other than to save the life of the other twin. Rather than delete the text, it should be discussed. Give that person a reason why you don't agree with their evaluation of the surgery. - Texture 15:00, 13 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. Obviously we should keep the article page, and how can we delete the talk page for a valid article page? --Daniel C. Boyer 18:36, 13 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. Talk pages are essential to what goes on here. Kingturtle 08:01, 16 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I changed the claim she was the first born alive with that condidition. I also changed the number of cases before her (born alive and dead) with that condition. Here are my sources:
I admit the second is a magazine which covers odd topics, but it does so in a qualified manner. I also changed the wording "her extra head" to "the other head" to take away some of the tumor POV. --R.H. 23:58, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
