Talk:Real-estate developer

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Contents 1 Self-appointed watchdog 2 Self-Promotional Links Banned: Not Kidding 3 Discussion on main page 4 Introduction

[edit] Self-appointed watchdog

As I'm the one who re-wrote the Real Estate Developer entry into its present form and have been refining it ever since, I just wanted to introduce myself and let everyone know that I'm policing the entry to prevent it being used for gratuitous self-promotion or misinformation. For instance, the external links section is being limited to entries for professional real estate development organizations, informational archives, and similar entities, and links to specific developers or their companies will be deleted if they appear there (but not in the 'Notable Developers' section - so long as the link does go to a notable developer). I will also automatically delete anti-development screeds if they appear (none have yet, but I think that's probably a matter of time).

~Ertyqway

That was not the intent, and it will be corrected right away. Humblest appologies. There are a few notables mixed within the (admittedly long) list. If the entry is re-opend to editing, it will be corrected. ~David

Not sure Paul Allen actually qualifies as a "notable developer". He is simply a high-profile individual that has undertaken some real estate ventures of no greater importance or scale than many others not listed. 207.6.233.239 22:17, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Allen's development group, Vulcan, is undertaking the re-development of a large part of the city of Seattle and counts among the better-capitalized development companies in the USA. He was also instrumental in getting both the Experience Music Project and Seahawk Stadium built. That plus his level of fame make him a "notable developer" in my opinion. Whether or not his work has been any good is another question entirely. ~Ertyqway (01/03/2007)

[edit] Self-Promotional Links Banned: Not Kidding

There have been several recent cases of people creating self-promotional links in the "Notable Developers" section of the article. I have continued to delete these when I catch them. THIS ARTICLE IS NOT AN ADVERTISING SITE. As a rule of thumb, if a developer hasn't got some sort of national or international attention for something they've done, they're not notable enough to be listed. I can easily check this on Google, so there's not much room for argument (hint: if Google only gives me local news links, online resumes, and corporate marketing blurbs for a listed individual, they don't qualify as notable). If the individual in question already has a Wikipedia article about them (a real one, not a vanity page), then that counts in favor of listing as "notable."

~Ertyqway (09/01/2006)

[edit] Discussion on main page

I tried to remove the discussion on the main page. But I can not understand why it has been reverted back. Discussions must be written in the 'Discussion' page only.Kothari.sagar 12:23, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Introduction

I don't agree with the opening intro on this article "...makes improvements of some kind to real property". That is more of a home improvement or property maintenance definition. I think it should start more like "...is a builder of residential and commercial real estate". Don't want to change this without discussion - so here it is, please discuss. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.47.49.83 (talk) 07:15, 22 December 2006 (UTC).

An "improvement" is a commonly accepted real estate and legal term. An improvement may be as subtle as a change in property boundaries as registered with the municipal authorities on title- only on paper and little else. Not all developers actually build. The opening intro is fine. 66.183.217.31 23:43, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree that real estate development includes all kinds of improvement to real property, not just new construction. In support of this position, I refer readers to the November/December 2006 issue of the Urban Land Institute's "Multifamily Trends" magazine, in which a substantial portion of the publication is devoted to the repositioning and "value add" activity of multi-family developers (taking existing buildings and improving them). ~Ertyqway (01/03/2007)