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[edit] Re: Question about lack of citation

Hi Fred, InUgly_American I did a edit of a description of what should actually be in The Ugly American as I discovered by doing a few more clicks on links. Am I missing something? Should I have a new job as a book reviewer and cite myself? :) Or should I have cited the book? Just curious.--Rcollman 19:12, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi.
The second paragraph started with "The authors state that one of the "good" characters is "ugly" looking to create a contrast with the "handsome" characters who were "bad". In the book, the authors' "good" characters used their skills and resources to make a positive change in the lives of villagers in Southeast Asia and the "bad" characters used their skills and resources for other purposes. ".
This needs a source. You should not introduce your own conclusions on Wikipedia, only established conclusion. As a contrast, this source says exactly the opposite of you.
Fred-Chess 22:55, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
 Hi Fred,

Nice quote and reference

"The term “ugly American” used to describe boorish people from the U.S. insensitive to those in other countries bothers fans of the 1958 novel The Ugly American whose title character was actually sensitive and thoughtful—he just looked ugly. The popularizers of this phrase hadn’t read the book and judged its message too quickly by its title." says the link.

This is hardly the opposite of what I said. I tried not to use use fancy english. I placed words in quotes to draw attention to the good:ugly bad:handsome counterpoints. The above reference leaves it up to the reader to supply the counterpoint to boorish. sensitive/thoughtful:ugly Boorish:_____ which would logically (to me) be "handsome" .

Could you suggest a different way of expressing this idea to readers who might come from different cultures and not share our point of view? That point of view would be that some people believe that there is such a thing as a good american.

Now that I read your quote again, I see that you are right, in that your words are the same as those of Paul Brians . I probably confused things up, or perhaps your paragraph could be written in a less confusing way. Maybe removing all quotation marks would help. / Fred-Chess 12:31, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. I am a little overly sensitive in cross cultural evironments as to perceptions. The good and bad are a lot like beauty - its in the eye of the beholder. :) I am open to edit, it is hard to write a neutral paragraph about what is still a hot international political topic. As one of my best friends likes to say "The world is made up of just two kinds of people: people who don't know that they are jerks and those that do. " That thought keeps me humble. --Rcollman 18:58, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Annang Map 1950d.jpg

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[edit] Annang picture response

Thanks for the tag on the picture I placed at Annang. I went back and cited it, then I contacted the possible copyright holder and got permission. I like the notion of copyright but feel that scanning in a section of a diagram or picture when proper credit is given is a permissible use.

Having received permission, I was sending the Wikipedia copyright page to the holder since it was the first time they had received such a request. Then I noticed Crown copyrights expires after 50 years from the first year of publication. It is 100 years in the US. So I assume that if the map comes from my personal copy of a book that was published in London in 1950 and again in 1967, Wikipedia really does not need one? Would that be your understanding?

Appreciate your experience. --Rcollman 19:33, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Excellent! If it was published before 1956 you should use {{PD-BritishGov}}, and it is public domain :D Thanks for looking in to that. You don't actually need permission for the image, but if you want to mention that you got it that is ok too :) - cohesion 05:50, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
I don't know if the African Institute is part of the Government or covered by the crown copyright laws. --Rcollman 13:48, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] License tagging for Image:Nasa Horn.JPG

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[edit] Images

All images (and text) must be licensed under the GFDL licence or be public domain , or it cannot be accepted on to wikipedia. Commercial use can be made of the Wikipedia content subject to the fairly limited GFDL conditions. I'm afraid it's not possible to restrict the usage to non-commercial use. Your choice, unfortunately, is to change the licence or not use the image. The choices given when you upload lead to confusion, but I didn't produce them.jimfbleak 20:06, 16 January 2007

This is true, our goals are to be completely free for any use, including using our content for commercial use. This is why fair use images are so controversial: they aren't recognised in some parts of the world, and can polute this goal. However, I think it's great that you are willing to contribute, even though with slightly different goals than our own (though very similar!). --Ta bu shi da yu 20:56, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Thank you both for the explaination and elaboration. LOL about rules. So I tried a different license that was honest. I guess I could call it a work of art of my own. I am just trying to do the most conserative correct action. Thanks again--Rcollman 05:12, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

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