Talk:Ravelstein

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Yuck, this article is weak and entropic. What critics? I am glad we know that Bellow "never wrote the perfect novel", without wikipedia that would never come to light. Too POV to be useful. Where is the long view of Bellows other novels too? Overall shabbily rendered.--Mikerussell 17:01, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Edited this POV assessment. Who died and made this person literary editor at wikipedia? You could use this quote as an example to newcomers how not to infuse your own opinion into an article without citing at least one source for the evaluation. Despite the controversy, Bellow's book is largely an (over-) affectionate apologia for Bloom that avoids the sticky questions of his elitist ideas and presents him as a sort of superhuman gourmand of life's sensual pleasures and sexual and emotional attachments. In the end, Bellow asks that the reader look beyond Bloom's writings and see him as a complex, flawed, but avid mind that left a unique, indelible impression on students, friends, and lovers.--Mikerussell 14:36, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

I tried to make the article worthy of the subject and not just some loose thoughts by someone patching together a stub-filler.--Mikerussell 18:49, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

it ain't great, but I think it is a little better, and maybe somebody else can go further .--Mikerussell 18:49, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:K. G. Griffiths additions

Added info box and I heavily edited the article, some of the stuff was so badly written I had a hard time believing it- percisely because I think I was the one who poured out the slop months ago, but there was also a lot of additional material from a new editor. Some of the material I tried to synthesis in the "The text" section, but a lot I simply edited out. There was in my opinion too much subjective opinion, not that it was uninteresting opinion or off-topic slander, to the contrary it was interesting stuff, but suitable for a book club coffee clutch not a wikipedia article. The comparisons were too personal and quite frankly difficult to completely understand- again, the stuff of good conversation- as in 'why would you say that', but not here in an encyclopedia entry. If the writer can amend it to make it more generic and objective, he is welcome to re-add. At least that is my opinion, and if i had more time i'd look over more but now I got to go. --Mikerussell 05:21, 3 November 2006 (UTC)