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[edit] Now that Disney owns Pixar...

What, if anything has changed about Ratatouille? Ratatouille.com points to http://disney.go.com/disneypictures/

Is there a new release date? Has a trailer been released yet?

Has Disney/Pixar announced anything after this film?

I watched the Ratatouille trailer yesterday at my Cars screening. I just wanted to comment on something: I didn't remember seeing in the trailer that Disney was participating along with Pixar, but I see the Disney logo on the Ratatouille logo on the Wikipedia page. I knew that Disney has bought Pixar, but I thought it was too late for Disney to be involved in Ratatouille. --QQQ (6-10-06)

Before the merger was complete, because talks were so good, they decided to add Ratatouille into their second agreement. They basically wanted to make sure that IF the talks ended badly, that at least Ratatouille would be under both of them, giving them time to make a new deal till 2007. However, because the talks turned into a merger . . . and now that PIXAR is now under Disney and in charge of both PIXAR and Disney films (with those made at PIXAR carrying the name "Disney-Pixar") it doesn't really matter now. But basically, they ARE a team again. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.162.220.224 (talk • contribs) .

[edit] Plot?

Well, all we know is that it is about a rat in a Parisan restaurant who is in love with Haute cuisine. But not enough is revealed, I mean, does the Chef know him? But it's like Pixar always did before the film's trailer came out, such as Cars- not much was revealed when it was first announced "Cars features a wide assortment of cars as characters who get their kicks on Route 66." I think more will be revealed.

If anyone finds any info, put it on the article. Corvette67

  • Saw a Lasseter interview in Paris on Canal+ for the European premiere of Cars. Says it is a story of a rat in a restaurant who wants to become a cook.Hektor 13:48, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
      • Okay, the trailer's been taken down now, but the plot seems to be: A kitchen boy who can't cook finds Remy (who can cook) and they team up to become "the greatest chef in Paris." Maybe someone who saw the trailer can write something up in the plot section about that...I think they might have shown some of the clip at an interveiw somewhere...?Catcher Block 00:30, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

In order to be consistent with WP's use (or non-use, as it were) of blogs as source/reference items, can we look into correcting/updating the JHM reference (footnote #1) that discusses the reported plot?SpikeJones 19:58, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Woah there...

Can anyone verify this? Willshepherdson 15:20, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

are you talking about the supposed cast names? If so, I think we definitely need some sort of proof... because it reads more like the cast for a Dreamworks feature than any of Pixar's. 7/8 named characters with (arguably) A-list celebrities? I have strong doubt. Kendall 14:07, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
agreed...what should we do for the time being? Willshepherdson 20:27, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Patton Oswalt

Can someone provide a source verifying that Patton Oswalt is actually doing a voice? It keeps getting added without any proof. —tregoweth (talk) 01:33, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

The blog at Jim Hill Media verifies that Patton Oswalt is voicing Remy. Mightyhog 14:24, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Poster

There is a new poster at [1]. I can't get it up, but someone else should try. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.63.18.184 (talk • contribs) .

[edit] Art Style

The style of Ratatouille seems to borrow heavily from Quentin Blake's caricature of rats in his various illustrations. The nose, ears, belly, and posture of the rats shown in the trailer are nearly identical to those seen in 'The Witches', in particular. Could this be added as a reference? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TythosEternal (talk • contribs) .

Only if you find a reference for it. Powers T 00:00, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Non-standard pronounciation?

I've always pronounced the food as "rat-a-too-ee," what's non-standard about it? CrossEyed7 06:50, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Wouldn't it normally be pronounced more like "rat-a-twee" (as in, "oui" with a "t" in front of it)? Esn 21:39, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Non-standard means without those crazy dictornary signs nobody understands. --Wack'd About Wiki 21:01, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
It's non-standard for BOTH the reason that it doesn't use the International Phonetic Alphabet, which in fact many people who learn multiple languages (i.e. non-Americans) are somewhat familiar with, and also because it's not how the word is correctly pronounced by any standard. WildlifeAnalysis 18:48, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Gotta love the snotty comments from the non-Americans on Wikipedia. Jerk. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 148.177.68.50 (talk) 22:15, 23 January 2007 (UTC).
Gotta love the general ignorance of Americans about everything under the sun. Jerk.WildlifeAnalysis 23:11, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Gotta love the blatant child-like hatred of people unlike yourselves.

[edit] Release date

"It is scheduled for release on June 29, 2007 by Walt Disney Pictures."


Shouldn't this be June 28? As it will be first released in Australia on June 28.

Do films' release dates written from when the film will be first released in the world, or when they are first released in the films' own countries (in the case, the US)? The former sounds more logical if you ask me. --211.26.48.123 07:26, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

It should be the date of the film's first release in the world, but other important release dates can also be mentioned. For example, if the film was first released in a film festival, you'd mention that but also mention the first wide release, and maybe the US release. It depends on the film. Esn 21:41, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Ok. Did you change the opening paragraph? If so, thanks. --211.26.122.77 03:17, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] merchandise

Not a fan of the merchandise-related "trivia" that had been added, so I separated it into its own section as the info wasn't exactly trivia about the movie at all. Anybody feel that it even needs to exist?SpikeJones 16:40, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Want to participate in a Pixar survey?

Please participate in my survey on Pixar characters. The results on the most likeable Pixar characters will be shown and updated on the first weekend of every month. We hope that you will comment and rate the characters. The survey is located at User:ANNAfoxlover/Pixar. Thanks for your comments and ratings. ANNAfoxlover 21:59, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] can someone coordinate footnotes

the Brad Garret pair of interview are contradictary to each other or are both poorly written. Can we come to an absolute consensus of what it is he's trying to say in each?SpikeJones 01:58, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi. My take on it is that we should go with Auguste Gusteau (as the character that Garrett actually voices). First of all, MTV, I would think, is generally considered to be more "official" than About.com. Secondly, no other source mentions "Rousseau" as a character in the film, whereas Auguste Gusteau is mentioned not only in numerous sources, but most importantly, in the official Ratatouille website [2] and the Ratatouille page in the official Pixar website [3]. S@lo 03:19, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] John Ratzenberger is in Ratatouille!

Some of you guys don't think John Ratzenberger is in the film, well Brad Bird says him self that Ratzenberger is in the film here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr8IgtVNAic User:71.123.3.238 04:42, 20 March 2007

Cite it then rather than wasting our time. See WP:ATT. WikiNew 21:44, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Hello there. Regarding the discussion-starter's concern, most of us here, including myself, believe that John Ratzenberger will be in the film. However, Wikipedia has a policy stating that facts such as these stated in articles must be attributable to a reliable source (which means that blogs, fansites, etc. are more or less excluded, unless they provide some very solid evidence that the information is true). I've seen the YouTube video that you posted, and had Brad Bird said, "John Ratzenberger will be in Ratatouille," in the video, then the John Ratzenberger info would have been added to the article, more likely than not (which is exactly why Peter O'Toole is already included in the cast list). Unfortunately, Brad Bird never explicitly stated whether Mr. Ratzenberger will in fact be in the film (he may have hinted that Ratzenberger will voice a character, but the fact of the matter is that the nature of his statement remains ambiguous). To sum up, most of us believe that Ratzenberger will be in the film, but that wouldn't suffice unless we have a reliable source to back up our claim. S@lo 00:11, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

(dang WP and its database issues, I tried to post this earlier). Agreed with S@lo. In the video at the 3:36 mark or so, Brad Bird specifically addresses the question of whether Ratz will be in the movie or not in an extremely vague manner -- words to the effect of "we've had seven hits with him... I may be tempting fate". By saying "tempting fate", the phrase can imply that Bird is tempting fate by *not* having Ratz in the movie just as much as it implies that Ratz IS in the movie. He never actually says "yes".SpikeJones 02:28, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
I still question the "confirmation". All the cited article says is that "comingsoon has confirmed.... will be in R." They do not cite their sources, so how can we use that as a WP source? They should fall into the same WP:VERIFY rules that blogs do. SpikeJones 21:59, 22 March 2007 (UTC) (not saying he's NOT in it, but we need to be consistent in our confirmation source requirements SpikeJones 22:02, 22 March 2007 (UTC))
The ComingSoon article in question can be found by clicking on the following link -ComingSoon interview. I am a little surprised that we haven't found this article before, considering that it has been available since July 2006. With that said, John strongly hinted during this interview that he will voice a character in Ratatouille. However (and here's the big "however"), John also said, during the time of the interview (which was about a year ago), that he has not done any voice work for the film. Because of that, I'd like to keep this topic of discussion open to debate. S@lo 22:56, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
COME ON! HE IS GOING TO BE IN THE FILM! (SORRY FOR YELLING!) --58.179.224.128 08:24, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem

To Pixar is, uploading images without copyright information is in violation of a free encyclopedia. Please change those images' copyright status to "some website" to film-screenshot or Disney character instead. Also, those character descriptions sound copyrighted. Alientraveller 14:50, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Can you change the copyright info.? Because I don’t know how. User:Pixar is 09:51, 30 March 2007

I did so myself, but remember, you did not find those images on "some website". They are copyrighted film screenshots. I also removed the copyrighted bios. Alientraveller 14:56, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

I did not know what to list them as so I put them as "some website". User:Pixar is 10:00, 30 March 2007

When you upload an image, you've got a list to select from. Pick movie screenshot instead. Alientraveller 15:05, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay! Will do. User:Pixar is 10:20, 30 March 2007

Pixar is, we need to know where you found the images. The missing copyright information is in violation of a "free encyclopedia". A•N•N•Afoxlover hello! 15:09, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] IMDb as a source?

Just a question, why is IMDb not a valid source for information in Wikipedia as per this revision? --clpo13 22:40, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Although providing less freedom in editing than does Wikipedia, IMDb is a site that can be edited by its members, most of whom are not affiliated with the movie industry. IMDb is therefore an unreliable source of information when it comes to upcoming movies (and perhaps movies that have already come out, although not usually). To give you an example, IMDb once listed David Schwimmer as the voice of Emile in Ratatouille, which is obviously false. In fact, I will even go so far as saying that IMDb used the Ratatouille article in Wikipedia as a source; when Wikipedia then used IMDb as a source, a kind of "circular effect" in citing took place, if you will.
There are, of course, Wikipedia articles in which IMDb can be used as a source. For example, you can use IMDb as a source in the article entitled "Films considered the greatest ever", as IMDb's Top 250 list is more or less an accepted form of movie popularity polling/voting. Also, note that IMDb cannot be used as a source, but it is common practice for Wikipedia editors to link to the IMDb entry of movies for which articles have been written (which is different from using it as a source). The reason is that, in a sense, IMDb is an alternative "Wikipedia of movies" considering that it gives curious Internet-surfers and movie aficionados a fair bit of information (which isn't necessarily official) regarding films, upcoming or otherwise. (The fact that IMDb is more or less a complete database of films, which makes it one of the leading and most popular movie sites in the net, is another reason that we link to a movie's IMDb entry.) S@lo 01:22, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Ah, I wasn't aware IMDb was editable. Thanks for clearing that up. --clpo13 04:00, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
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