Talk:Rani Mukherjee

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[edit] Recent Edits

I disagree with a lot of the recent edits to this page, specifically the hacking of facts from 'Trivia' and calling them 'Accomplishments'. For a start, they can be incorporated into the main body of the article. Shez keeps converting the article to containing blatant POV and these need to be watched and reverted as and when necessary. Also, we need to build consensus on what constitute reliable sources. Every time I perform a cleanup, Shez or someone else keeps on inserting links to unreliable sources such as Tripod sites, AOL members, Musicindiaonline, Apunkachoice, and others. These are all unreliable and should be removed on sight. I might start a topic about unreliable sources on the Project Noticeboard so that we can build consensus that will affect all pages under WP:INCINE. Ekantik talk 02:14, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Awards

I just deleted the entry for a ridiculous award on the grounds that Rani was nominated for it, she hasn't actually won it yet, See this link. It appears that the so-called Savlon award is not even notable. Reviewing the whole 'Other' awards section made me wonder if this is suitable informaiton to tbe included in an encylopaedic article? The whole page itself looks like a cribbed resume of her achievements past and present, which we can do nothing about at present until we get some high-quality sources to include in the biography and other sections.

What do other editors feel about the 'Other' awards section? Barring the Sports Awards and the Zee awards (of whose notability should also be questioned) is there any use in maintaining this section? Isn't it better to remove this section of non-notable awards? Ekantik talk 01:27, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Remove away, as far as I'm concerned. I'll support you. Shez will probably object strongly and revert. Zora 02:02, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks Zora, I'm about to remove it. Shez will just have to put up with it. :-) But seriously, if Shez continues to disrupt this article (adding non-notbale information and unreliable sources, etc) then we may have to seek action against him. It'll be just tough luck. To see an example of what I'm talking about, check out the before and after of Ron Jeremy article. Guess who did that? Jimbo! :-) And as per his explanation, this is a good example of how Jimbo/Wikipedia is better off with stub-pages with reliably sourced info rather than pages and pages of cribbed stuff that is poorly sourced. If you're listening, Shez, please take heed. Ekantik talk 03:34, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] personal infos

Seems interesting, lots of personal infos about the actress, first film Byar Phool, origins of her name and family, interview on infos —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.122.89.227 (talk) 09:42, 5 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Non-notable BBC Awards

The notations to the BBC Film Cafe Awards have been deleted because the award is non-notable. See the BBC Film Cafe website; Film Cafe is a radio show with its own non-notable awards "ceremony", where the votes for the awards were cast by listeners. This award is non-notable. It's easy to get fooled by the "BBC" tag but some effort must be made to establish the veracity of the information. Ekantik talk 05:36, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Page Move

Oh God, please tell me we'r enot going to have a war about a page move. A peek into the archives of this talk page reveals that the page was moved to 'Rani Mukherjee' with administrator help after a vote was taken and community consensus was gained. Please, therefore, do not move this page without good reason. Ekantik talk 04:16, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Clean up

Just cleaned up a bit, but otherwise the article is OK. Removed that she has been one of the most popular and sought-after Bollywood actresses in the industry circuit because no-one can vouch for that. Unless she won the National Film Award there is no need to mention this. Removed stuff on her saying yes to Aamir and SRK, this ain't really notable. -- Pa7 23:51, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh yes! Also removed her future television appearance with Preity Zinta. It's already in the TV section, so no need to re-mention. -- Pa7 23:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Recent edits

I have removed some very irrelevant bits of trivia like the fact that she was invited to Aamir Khan's wedding and has not played a negative role. That is useless info! Personally I think this article is a mess but if I try to clean it up then certain editors, one in particular, will think that Im chopping the article into pieces. Does anybody want to share their opinion on this article before I go ahead and do some editing?? Also just to get the record straight, nobody is jealous of Rani Mukherjee. -- Pa7 19:55, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Great Job!

I think the page never looked better. Although facts like she was the only celebrity invited to Aamir Khan's wedding and she has not played a negative role are trivial matters, that is maybe why they were in the trivia section, but it's okay if you removed it. You don't need to further edit it. It's complete. Thanks! -- User:shez_15 21:55, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

There is no such thing as "complete" - Wikipedia is an ongoing project. In my opinion this page has become even worse of a mess than when I first saw it. Does anyone really think that a enormous section dedicated to the spurious awards she's won trumps encyclopaedic information of her life and career? This is a cribsheet of awards she's won and not an encyclopaedia? And what to speak of the huge number of unreliable references that are being used, leading to images and not information? Sorry, as soon as I get some real time on my hands this page is going to get a major rewrite. Ekantik talk 17:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)