Talk:Randall Terry
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[edit] POV?
Admittedly what I know about Randall Terry would fit on the back of a postage stamp, but I can't believe this article can be NPOV. What do people who know the subject think? Dbiv 23:16, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Everything presented here is fact. What you can glean from that is either that Randall Terry has a very questionable past, or that his other less scurrilous achievements have not yet been documented by people who know more and/or his supporters. Likely both are true. :) Neurophyre 04:18, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- An article that is entirely factual may still fail to be NPOV if it does not state the whole story. The problem with this article is it doesn't seem to include a single fact about his achievements. If he's still the head of an organisation then someone must think he's on the right wavelength. I'm not going to put an NPOV alert tag on the article because I don't know enough to say that it is definitvely not NPOV, but it doesn't seem to be the acme of neutrality. Dbiv 20:29, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- I don't disagree with you, but the only thing I know about his achievements that I haven't yet added is that he worked with James Kopp when founding Operation Rescue -- Kopp later went on to murder an abortion doctor. Probably doesn't help your issue with the article. :) Like I said, probably someone will come along and fix it soon, I just added what I knew. Neurophyre 20:49, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who think Clinton should have had a dead fetus sent to him and the Lawrence majority should have been impeached. The problem with such an extreme figure is that an account of his actions are pretty much all going to look like criticism to those who aren't in his particular ideological camp. But this article definitely needs to be expanded. Maybe someone will find something he did that moderates will agree with. ; ) Postdlf 20:55, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- An article that is entirely factual may still fail to be NPOV if it does not state the whole story. The problem with this article is it doesn't seem to include a single fact about his achievements. If he's still the head of an organisation then someone must think he's on the right wavelength. I'm not going to put an NPOV alert tag on the article because I don't know enough to say that it is definitvely not NPOV, but it doesn't seem to be the acme of neutrality. Dbiv 20:29, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Anyone have the recent comments he made about empowering pro-lifers? Suggested add to quotes.
"In 2000 Terry divorced his wife of nineteen years and married Andrea Kollmorgen, with whom he has had three children. In 2004 Terry's adopted son Jamiel came out as a homosexual and wrote an article for Out Magazine; Terry disowned his son and in an article for the socially conservative website WorldNetDaily, claimed the Out piece contained significant inaccuracies and that his son was homosexual because of the abuse he suffered before Terry "rescued" him at age 8. Both of Terry's adopted daughters became pregnant outside of marriage, which effectively ended their relationship with their father; one later became a Muslim.". Jeez, as much as I can't stand the guy, you have to feel sorry for him in a way.
- You'll have to excuse my lack of sympathy for someone who aspires to be the next Hitler. LavosBacons 02:51, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
Regarding the comments about NPOV-ness, the problem with writing a balanced article is that there is virtually nothing positive that anyone can say about this guy. Most neo-con Republicans tend to distance themselves from him, which should be saying something. Many of his supporters would seem incapable of saying anything good about him beyond "he is a true man of the Lord" (which, IMHO, is B$ and very NPOV). Jamyskis Whisper, Contribs 07:48, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] terri schiavo
this article needs to discuss much further randall terry's role in the terri schaivo media circus. Kingturtle 07:35, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
- You are so right. -- Pinktulip 08:08, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Randall Terry Live!
Why no mention of his nationally syndicated radio show? And, not that I'm a big fan, but this article is very POV. The article only mentions the scandals...for as many flaws a Terry has, he has done some good things. The problem is that the scandals were "juicy" and Libs love to tear down a Conservative with flaws so there is plenty written about it. Likewise, the Libs are loathe to give credit when a Conservative does something productive, so there is very little (or many times none at all) source material for us to use. Anyway, like I said, it's not that I'm a fan of Terry's, I just don't want people to read this and think that this is all there is to the man. It's simply all that Wikipedia can chronicle, because, like so many other people these days, scandals make good ratings and the good things never get recorded.--WilliamThweatt 22:31, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
- If you have verifiable information about Terry, please feel free to add it to the article --Deville (Talk) 03:19, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] State Senate Race
As you all know by now the Florida Republican State Committee, the RNC, and the Whitman/Chafee/Shays wing of the republican party have combined their resources against Randall Terry in the FL St. Sen. race (several hundred thousand and possibly millions of dollars) and they have taken the election.
Further proof that when it comes to the Republican party, they want your votes in November but other than that and especially in the primaries, (taking a cue from Bull Connor):
PRO-LIFERS NEED NOT APPLY
72.82.179.58 05:29, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Regarding paragraph: "Post-lawsuit activities"
The lawsuit, Now v Schindler, just ended recently, so this paragraph name is not the best. I plan, in the next few days, to group the items that relate to *infidelity* in a separate paragraph. MartinGugino 21:20, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
I moved the text around. It still needs work certainly on citations. The hyperlinks seem unhelpful: a reference to an article in the Washington Post has a link to the newspaper, whereas what one would want is a link to the article. MartinGugino 22:02, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
The website "Answers.com" takes its answers on Randal Terry right from Wikipedia! [1] Yikes.
I have used the text that was in this paragraph to make a few others: Personal problems, political activities, and Terri Schiavo. You are welcome to make further changes from here. It is, to my eyes, better organized now, but still has some weak sourcing. MartinGugino 05:27, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
I removed some poorly cited items: A reference to "a New York court". I am sure it is true, but I can't find a reference. The housing issue was not presented clearly: The new house in St Augustine cost (it said) $400K, which is not remarkable in itself. The remarkable thing is more that he claimed to be broke, and raised funds for the new house, after having settled with NOW and declaring bankruptcy to avoid payment in a case that later NOW lost anyway. His ex-wife allegedly was put on the hook for his settlement, and then HE raised money to be made-whole, and shorted her. That's the slimy part. But the facts need to be marshaled better. The added quote from Flip Benham via Poole is at least documented, and cited, and contains the essence of the complaint.
[edit] External links
I would suggest that as many of these as possible are turned into references (citations). Otherwise there are simply too many. Rich Farmbrough, 18:23 25 February 2007 (GMT).
