Talk:Ramona Amiri

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[edit] Ramnona is proud to be Assyrian, not Iranian

She can't be Iranian cause she wasnt born there and she's not ethnically persian or kurdi. Source: http://www.globalbeauties.com/world/2005/w05_worldcan.htm You've mentioned that you're very proud of your Assyrian heritage. Describe that culture for us, and say something in the Assyrian language.

"The Assyrians are a very ancient civilization originating 7,500 years ago. Now, they are considered to be on the verge of extinction and have no country to call their own.

The Assyrian people are scattered throughout the world with the bulk of their population being in Iran and Iraq, where the empire once stood. They are Christians of somatic race and have their distinct foods, traditions, dances and language. “Shlama all chulokhun!” (Peace be on you all!)"

This is also an interesting article which also discusses the issue of her interest in Iranian matters. [1]

[edit] Ramona's ethnicity

the person who keeps rving claims she is "iranian-assyrian" and which means she belongs 100% to the Iranian people. This is simply false. Assyrians do not belong under Iranian people. While she is ethnically half Iranian, she is no way 100% Iranian, thus she stands as a Canadian women first, descent of Assyrian and Persian/Iranian...you make up your mind if you want to call her other half Persian or Iranian. Chaldean 01:18, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

the article on the page (http://www.washingtonprism.org/eng/showarticle.cfm?id=43) says that she is "iranian-canadian" in the first sentance Rugsnotbombs

of course the Iranian website is going to say that. I just posted that source to prove she is Assyrian. Now stop vandelizing. She does not belong under the title of Iranian people, its simple as that. Chaldean 03:53, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Chaldean, I think you have some misunderstandings about the term "Iranian." Saying that Ramona is 100% "Iranian" is correct since her father is Assyrian from Urmia and her mother is Persian. Persians are the primary ethnic group of Iran, but most definitely not the only one - there are literally dozens of different Iranian ethnic groups. But Ramona was born in Canada and thus unless a source can be provided that demonstrates her preference for "Iranian Canadian" or "Assyrian Canadian" or whatever, "Canadian" is the most accurate. As Abakharev has stated, there is no need for overemphasis when her heritage has already been made clear in the intro of the article. SouthernComfort 08:23, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit war

The question of the formal ethnic labels is usually the most hotly contested and prone to the revert wars and the less interesting to the readers. Thus, any solution acceptable to the most of the editors is fine with me.

IMHO is a Canadian woman of Assyrian and Persian heritage + Amiri's father, of Assyrian ethnicity, was born in Urmia, Iran, and her mother is Persian. provides all the ethnic info somebody would want to know. While xx-Canadian of yy and zz heritage is a kind of overdo - we either state xx-Candaian or Canadian of such and such heritage - not the both at once. Maybe we should add that her mother is from Iran as well (if there exist such ignorant people who do not know that Persians are the main nation of Iran). I would keep the Category:Iranian Canadians as the categories are usable navigation tool and somebody may look for Ramona in this category. If there is Category:Assyrian Canadians or [[Category:Assyrian people we could safely add her there as well.

This is my suggestion, please discuss yours on the talk page rather than edit warring. I can protect the page if neccessary so you would concentrate on finding the consensus. abakharev 05:30, 30 March 2006 (UTC)