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Contents 1 Regarding Lo mein 2 Pronunciation 3 Michael Moore 4 Terrestrial Meat 5 ramen=noodles? 6 Tampopo a Juzo Itami movie 7 Mie noodles 8 List of Ramen Soup 9 Lead section 10 Instant Ramen flavors 11 Instant Ramen vs Real Ramen 12 Otaku ruin everything 13 Ramen in Chinese? 14 In Germany 15 in pop culture 16 Pictures of ramen 17 Could we start a page on kansui instead?

[edit] Regarding Lo mein

Merge http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakata-men with this page plz.

拉麵 (Ramen) is not the same as the same as Chinese lo mein. Lo mein is 撈麵 and is different from Ramen.

• I also find it strange that this article relates Japanese/Korean "Ramen", Instant Ramen, and Chinese La mian/Lo Mein without explanation of their(significant) differences. 131.118.250.137 20:50, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

- I agree. I think at least 'Ramen' and 'instant noodle' needs respective article. Sections below 'health concerns' mainly talking about 'instant noodles' it shouldn't be mixed with 'Ramen' by just call it 'Ramen'.

Also, is there any health concerns regarding 'Ramen' not 'instant noodle'? If not, it should be clearly stated so. It can confuse people about 'health risk' when they dine at a ramen restaurant where 'Ramen' is served never 'instant noodles' (unless there are such restaurant serves instant noodles). 220.240.19.194 04:19, 21 January 2006 (UTC)Zep

I don't understand why there is confusion for the etymology of "ramen" if Chinese 拉麵 is made almost exactly the same way as ramen, and the other dishes aren't? Citrus538 05:13, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree. It is stupid to even suggest Lo Mein is where Ramen came from. 66.171.76.248 14:23, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

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Maruchan® brand ramen Copyvio? If the brand name is registered with a R, then is the illustrationm an ad for this brand? Wetman 08:55, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Pronunciation

It IS pronounced "rah-men" (at least based on the katakana ラーメン rāmen), not "ray-men". thank you very much for putting htat in there! my friend an i were having a heatted disscussion about the pronounciation of the word. Frogygirl 16:13, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Michael Moore

What's the deal w/ the fourth paragraph of the intro? Not really on point . . .

(Gregoryc wrote the above sentence but didn't sign his entry.)

Yes, the the fourth intro paragraph about Michael Moore didn't belong in the intro section. Instead, I merged it into the already-existing paragraph on Moore's ramen controversy in the History section. This topic is discussed in a bit more detail in Michael Moore, so I shortened it during the merge. Michael Moore's web log has details about what happened. --Ben James Ben 01:10, 2005 Jan 10 (UTC)

[edit] Terrestrial Meat

...perhaps because, for most of its history, the Japanese diet did not include terrestrial meat; their diet was mostly based of vegetables and seafood

I just read in Jared Diamond's book Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed that terrestrial meat was common in pre-Tokugawa times, and it was the Tokugawas that oriented the Japanese largely toward a fish and vegetable diet. Is this true? --Bletch 11:59, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] ramen=noodles?

So are Ramen just noodles? I'm not seeing a difference, particularly if they're sometimes made with egg (making them, surely, just egg noodles?). How are they not just 'noodles'? I mean, all noodles are quick and easy to make.

- Well, would you say that Spaghetti noodles are just noodles and should not have a name or an entry on Wikipedia? Ramen noodles are a specific type of noodle. They are probably consumed more than any other type of noodle in the world as well.

- 'Ramen' is a dish. 'Ramen noodle' is a kind of noodles that used for 'Ramen'. I do not think 'Ramen noodle' is easy to make. It's difficult to keep it in shape. 'Spaghetti' seems easier for me to make.

More commonly, ramen is made with kansui, rather than egg. As a home experiment substitute, you could use a teaspoon or so of baking soda with the flour and the resulting noodles from the dough will approximately resemble ramen. Dough with kansui is much easier to stretch, but stretched noodles are a pro's job. I think it's much easier to just roll it and cut it or send the dough through a pasta machine.

[edit] Tampopo a Juzo Itami movie

A great movie about the philosophy of Ramen makeing taht every Ramen eater must see

Also an interesting look into Japanese culture though be warned, despite the family movie like story, this movie has sexual scenes that may be offensive.

[edit] Mie noodles

Should we include a discussion of mie noodles - a fast cooking Chinese noodle variety that is sold is squares like ramen, but without the flavor packets?...

[edit] List of Ramen Soup

Is there a list of types of soup? myselfalso 02:19, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lead section

Since there's a section regarding etymology, and no clear consensus on it, I'm going to remove the etymology as well as the "alternative version" from the lead section. Sneftel 22:36, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Instant Ramen flavors

How many different flavors of Ramen noodles are there? We guess somewhere around 42 (that IS the answer to everything afterall!)

[edit] Instant Ramen vs Real Ramen

Instant ramen noodles are usually fried. Real ramen noodle are not fried.

[edit] Otaku ruin everything

Get your own Otakupedia guys. There isn't any reason to list every single anime and manga where someone ate a bowl of ramen. It's silly. I reccomend we split that section off to Ramen references in Japanese Pop Culture or simply delete it.Bethereds 12:26, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ramen in Chinese?

I'm pretty sure ramen in chinese is called 方便面 (fāng biān mìan), and not whatever mentioned in the article.

Are you sure that doesn't mean "instant noodle" instead?

[edit] In Germany

I commented out a rather uninteresting part, but i did not want to delete outright. Any thoughts? (Please poke on my talk page, too) RichiH 02:16, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] in pop culture

Also commented out It is also used when sending a message to sign it. in the FSM section. Could not make sense of it in any way. Same as above, please poke in talk page RichiH 02:19, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pictures of ramen

Isn't 25 pictures of bowls of noodles a bit excessive? A few pictures which illustrates the major differences should be enough. It's making me hungry though. Phonemonkey 13:44, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Could we start a page on kansui instead?

Hi! I was just in the neihborhood when I noticed that kansui didn't have it's own article. But it had a discription of it in the raman article. Would there be enough to go off of or is it best to keep it in this article. Thank you:).--Blackmage337 00:23, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Speaking of which, unless I missed something, the article never actually defines this 'kansui'. I can't imagine an ingredient that comes from a lake, but can be replaced with egg, lol. I think this needs a quick explanation in the article. Edit: Ok, apparently I missed it. But I'm still confused...Vlmastra 03:34, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorted.Yakitoriman 00:40, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry Vlmastra, I think I may have been unclear with that. What I was suggesting is that we could have an article on kansui instead of having it described in this article and then making a link to it from the Ramen article. I thought that it would be easier for people to have that in case if they already knew what kansui is.--Blackmage337 20:03, 27 February 2007 (UTC)