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Contents 1 User:Bluemoose/Uncategorised good articles 2 Stub tags 3 Naval wars 4 FYI, Smackbot detecting unfilled out infobox book 5 AAV copy edit 6 Shorebirds 7 Hazel Ying Lee 8 Adeno-associated virus 9 new AAV 10 Source to use for ISBNs 11 10 vs 13 12 Department of Defense Dependents Schools 13 Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can

[edit] User:Bluemoose/Uncategorised good articles

Hi, I saw you helping out on User:Bluemoose/Uncategorised good articles. Thanks for that. For future reference, you don't need to cross out articles you have done. Just remove them completely from the list. Saves some work. Cheers, Garion96 (talk) 15:41, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

• Thanks for the tip, I'll do that in the future RainbowCrane | Talk 19:12, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stub tags

I've noticed in the new articles you're creating, you've been putting the stub tags at the top...in Wikipedia, they need to go at the bottom. Thanks Akradecki 02:57, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

• Thanks for letting me know, I'll follow that in the future. RainbowCrane 03:00, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Naval wars

Hey, I didn't actually put that ISBN number on, I just cut and pasted the one someone else put on it onto other pages. I couldn't find the isbn in the book (most old books don't seem to have them?) so I haven't checked it. I would assume the 1995 edition is probably the better one to point people to though. btw, what is the difference between the 2 editions? SpookyMulder 08:28, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FYI, Smackbot detecting unfilled out infobox book

Thanks that's a useful tip. Rich Farmbrough 15:54 26 August 2006 (GMT).

[edit] AAV copy edit

About the AAV article: are you an English-speaker? And have you read through the entire AAV article? If both are "yes" than maybe the request for the copy edit of AAV article could be removed? regards, Meiquer 11:58, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I'm a native English speaker. I put the copy edit on that article because I think it needs some work on making it more understandable for a general encyclopedia audience. That's why I put the expert tag on as well, I don't have enough experience with the field to fill the article out. I'd prefer to leave the tag on for now. Thanks - RainbowCrane | Talk 00:31, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

OK thanx :) there's also a response of mine on the AAV talk page. Regards :) Meiquer 21:50, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shorebirds

I have the 1986 Croom Helm, but the number printed in the book is not that given in your database - it's 0-7099-2034-2, jimfbleak 14:21, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

That works! I updated the article with that ISBN. FYI it's on the list I posted to your talk page, it's the 2nd in the list of editions - you have to click each individual edition to see the ISBN for that edition. Thanks for checking the book. (forgot to sign RainbowCrane | Talk 04:55, 30 August 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Hazel Ying Lee

Hi: I was wondering if you've received any response on the licensing/copy issues for Hazel Ying Lee? -- Whpq 15:24, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes I did, the author gave permission. I passed the permission on to the wikipedia address noted on WP:Copy somewhere (the wikipedia legal department, I believe). RainbowCrane | Talk 04:46, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Adeno-associated virus

I think that looks a lot better (I would say that though, since you took my advice!). It is certainly a lot easier to read, as the eye can skip the superscript notes. The anti-cancer agent sentence still sticks out like a sore thumb though. Yomangani^talk 14:33, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm hoping that the "expert" tag on the article draws some assistance for referencing/expanding. Should that section be marked with an "expand"? This is a great start for a good/feature quality article, I think, so it would be nice to get some help from one of the project teams. I'll look around to see if there's one of the wiki projects that fits. RainbowCrane | Talk 15:10, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] new AAV

Hey, this new version has the advantage of the text being more user-friendly. But the disadvantage is that the text part of the article is now relatively even smaller than the reference part. Is there a possibility, to kinda fuse those references and bibliography? So that when someone clicks on, say, [1] in the text - it takes them down to the references, where in turn they can click on the link to the article in Pubmed. Regards :) Meiquer 14:37, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

We could make the notes reference the full reference, yes. That makes the notes/bibliography sections shorter overall, the disadvantage is that it makes the wiki harder to edit because of the huge reference sitting in the middle of a paragraph of text - several editors complain about that. But nothing's perfect :-). There are ongoing discussions about changing Cite.php so that your inline reference can be just:

<ref name="blah/>

Then define elsewhere:

<ref name="blah">lots of reference details</ref>

For the time being I'll convert to do what you're asking and see how it looks. RainbowCrane | Talk 15:00, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, well, well, I saw it and it's terrific :) from me: two thumbs up ;). Cheers, Meiquer 08:02, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Source to use for ISBNs

Hello RainbowCrane, I saw your question over at [1] about databases to use for standard book numbers. My preference is for catalog.loc.gov. (I have been getting suggestions from various people who are trying to correct ISBNs). Publishers assign the numbers to the books but they do wind up sending their information to the Library of Congress. If the ISBN of an English-language book is not in the records of a major library (like the LOC), that would argue against using in Wikipedia. For British books you could also check catalogue.bl.uk. There's also the Australian National Library at catalogue.nla.gov.au. In case a book misses all the major libraries, Worldcat can sometimes give you the name of a library that has cataloged it. I think WP editors often copy down ISBNs from a CITING book and the citing books are sometimes mistaken. Ideally every ISBN would be checked (at least against Amazon) before being put in an article. EdJohnston 00:58, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the tips. RainbowCrane | Talk 17:54, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I see that you've been fixing some ISBNs. Do you have recommendations for looking up non-English-language books? Any non-English European libraries that have web-visible catalogs? EdJohnston 20:01, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 10 vs 13

Hi Rainbow, the "sunrise" for 13 digit ISBNs was 1 January 2005. As to the support of 979s, I hope and believe this present exercise (with ISBNs, not Wikipedia) will be long out of the way before we need worry about them. I'm sure that most systems will continue ot support 10 digit ISBNS for a long time, but they are not required to. In terms of supporting 13 digit ISBNs all significant systems will need to support them natively, legacy data can be dealt with in two ways, either by checking the converted number as well as the input number (which is a trivial piece of programming) or by running a conversion routine on the data, which is almost as trivial, the hard part, potentially, being the change to allow longer numbers, which will have been needed anyway. Regardless we need to keep thinking about the best process, as I say "auto isbn" can be used in a number of different ways. Rich Farmbrough, 16:22 8 September 2006 (GMT).

[edit] Department of Defense Dependents Schools

Hi, I noticed you tagged Department of Defense Dependents Schools for wikification. Is there any thing in particular you think needs to be done? It looks fairly wikified to me. Thanks, Metros232 23:07, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can