Template talk:Railway lines in Scotland

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[edit] Commuter lines

The Glasgow commuter lines section of this template is extremely poor from the point of view of visibility. The text for "North Clyde Line", for example, is barely legible, and so is that for "Ayrshire Coast Line". Several of the others aren't much better. IMO the colour-coding makes it harder to read, not easier, so defeats the object. Loganberry (Talk) 01:20, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

How do you find it now? Thanks/wangi 14:57, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

I had already dealt with the problem of visibility by removing the coloured backgrounds and replacing them with the coloured squares. Therefore I reverted the template to keep it consistent with the others (e.g. Template:Railway lines in Wales) Our Phellap 17:43, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Please, do not simply revert my hard work here. The previous code was very untidy and hard to read/understand due to a heap of "nbsp"s and such like - looks like it had been coded up in an HTML editor. My edit (or rather rewrite) cleaned this up and seperated lines with commas, removed the redundant "Line" in each entry and layed it out such that it automatically flowed to the size of the viewers screen. The WP:MOS advises against using colours, except in special cases. What's the special case here, what does it add? And if it adds anything, why just Glasgow when all routes in Scotland have a colour code[1]? Thanks/wangi 11:14, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

I do not understand why you have reverted the Template:Railway lines in Scotland. It is using the standard format as used by all the other templates for the rest of the UK. The colour coding of the Glasgow suburban lines is to match the colour of the line used on Strathclyde Passenger Transport's map, much as the Valley Lines colours are used for the Template:Railway lines in Wales. Our Phellap 01:44, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

To be honest I don't see a standard format as a reason to stick with one - the previous template has randomly sized colour boxes that look pretty naff to be honest. How about this (I've not put in the right colours):

Railway lines in Scotland
Main lines:	East Coast, West Coast, Glasgow—Edinburgh (via Falkirk), Highland, Ayrshire Coast, Glasgow—Edinburgh (via Carstairs), Glasgow South Western
Glasgow commuter lines:	█Argyle, █Ayrshire Coast, █Cathcart Circle, █Croy, █Cumbernauld, █Inverclyde, █Maryhill, █Motherwell—Cumbernauld, █North Clyde, █Paisley Canal, █Shotts, █South Western, █Whifflet
Edinburgh commuter lines:	Crossrail, Bathgate, Dunblane, Fife Circle, North Berwick, Shotts, Waverley
Rural lines:	Aberdeen—Inverness, Far North, Kyle of Lochalsh, West Highland

The other templates could be edited to match this. Thanks/wangi 01:50, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

I think the different lines are too close together now making it look crowded and difficult to read. The different colour boxes were not "random sizes" - they were all the same. Your template is a lot less readable and not aesthetically pleasing, which was why I reverted it. Our Phellap 02:22, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Perth to Dundee

I removed this line as it is already covered as the Tay Coast Line and possibly others. I am just wondering now, what seperates a main line from a rural line? Simply south 21:50, 31 January 2007 (UTC)