Talk:Railway signal

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I've never seen a British signal, and the article makes me quite curious. Pictures would be great. Stargoat 20:10, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Contents 1 What about the USA? 2 Proposed merge 3 Major Rewrite 4 Safeworking/signalling topic organisation

[edit] What about the USA?

Would be nice to have some info about RR signalling in the US. Topics might include searchlights/color position light signals, and the absolute permissive block system. --ZekeMacNeil 23:41, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)

It's nearly completely content-free right now, but I've started a North American railway signaling stub. A similar article, using the British spelling signalling also links there. Someone (maybe me, maybe you) can fill it with content along the lines of the articles already out there on similar national/regional practices:

• Australian railway signalling
• German railway signalling
• Norwegian railway signalling
• UK railway signalling

— JonRoma 06:37, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

I just completely rewrote the section at Railway signalling#Signaling in the U.S.. It might contain a little bit of what you're looking for, although you seem to be looking more for info on the actual signals themselves (style, aspects, method of operation, etc.), which I'm less familiar with (though I know a signal maintainer who would know all of that stuff). Try looking at the following resources for some leads, too:

• Railway Signalling and Operations FAQ
• North American Signaling

cluth 04:26, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed merge

There is significant overlap of content and subject matter in Railway signal and Railway signalling and I propose the content from Railway signal be merged to Railway signalling, which is a more appropriately-named article.

• Support. — JonRoma 21:26, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

• Support. — John 22:16, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

• Oppose - Please note that this proposal was already discussed at Talk:Railway signalling and rejected. --Qualle (talk) 10:45, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

I sure don't see a formal proposal or consensus from that discussion (in November 2005). Anyone is entitled to their opinion, of course, but I fail to see the value of two distinct articles that treat nearly the same subject matter. Both treat the fundamental subject of signalling practice rather than one discussing signaling devices and the other discussing the philosophy behind signalling. Perhaps someone can explain the benefit of having such similar material divided between two articles. Regards. — JonRoma 06:19, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

• Oppose - G-Man * 20:06, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

• Oppose — Railway signalling should be about all the operations to do with railway signalling, and Railway signal should be about the signals themselves. Ae-a 12:57, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

• Oppose A Signal, and Signalling are two differing topics

• Oppose There is too much to discuss about signalling as it is without merging the "signal" article in. Mangoe 04:06, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

I've taken out the RfM as there is no reference on the RfM page, this has sat around for months, and I've expanded the article drastically since the proposal was made. Mangoe 14:42, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Major Rewrite

I've almost totally rewritten this article, partly to filter out the general signalling discussion, but mostly to discuss the great variation in North American practice. At this point I don't think there's cause to merge this into railway signalling anymore.

As I've made such extensive changes, the article needs considerable review. See the "tasks" list for more info. Mangoe 19:22, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Safeworking/signalling topic organisation

I have posted my thoughts on the organisation and coverage of signals and signalling articles in Talk:Railway signalling#Safeworking/signalling topic organisation. Philip J. Rayment 11:22, 18 September 2006 (UTC)