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[edit] Bangladesh image use

hi, what is the official policy on image use in Bangladesh. There are tags for Indian-PD and Pak public domain images in Wikipedia, but none for Bangladesh and I wish to upload some old images and want to know the laws. Do u have any idea on this? Idleguy 06:05, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bangla

Started FA drive--ppm 07:43, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Portal:Bangladesh

Hi Ragib bhai. Could you create two separate templates for portal:Bangladesh. I have no idea about these. So please try it. At the moment all the features overlapped each other and its like a bit of Ho-jo-bo-ro-lo now.Tarif from Bangladesh 16:16, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject India/Translation

added more items that need bengali scripts...--D-Boy 17:42, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

I appreciate the help you have shown for new users here. Very helpful. I'm even more delighted to know you are Bengali? Nice meeting you friend.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Minist3r (talk • contribs) .

[edit] New box

Hello, please check out Template:User WikiProject Bangladesh . I created it for all of us WP Bangladesh users. Make whatever changes you see fitBakaman Bakatalk 20:19, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help needed

Hi Ragib,

I need a little help with Bengali langauge. I am having trouble typing "Mukherjee". When typed, it renders as: মুখর্জী। The 'rr' is coming over 'জ', while it should actually come after the 'I'. How do I rectify this. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 06:59, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I don't understand what the problem. If you add the "rr" (called "ref" in Bangla), it is supposed to go over the previous consonant. So, here, the ref is correctly coming over জ rather than the ী. So, the correct rendering of the word is মুখার্জী. --Ragib 00:59, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
If you think that is correct then there is no problem. I may have been misled as when we write in Hindi, the correct rendering is "मुखर्जी" (notice the location of 'ref' here). Thanks anyway, — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 17:40, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
I guess it's a script issue ... i.e. Hindi and Bengali have different ways of doing this :) --Ragib 17:49, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Vidya Balan

Dude, I have to agree with Bharatveer there. Zora has a nasty habit of making extremely annoying accusations of "political ploys"/"censorship"/"perpetrating massacre" . You know bothering him only pisses him off more. You may also note, that Deepujoseph agrees with him fully there. Its not like Zora has a real argument. Her argument in simple terms is: "you guys are anti-Muslim". I cant speak for bharat, but deepu and I certainly are not, and neither is Bharatveer unless prodded to get pissed.Bakaman Bakatalk 03:45, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Marakkar Stamp

The Stamp you deleted from the Marakkalage page was not put there for its philatelic value. It was there to illustrate what a Marakkar looks like.

Do you have any other reason for removing it ? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 222.165.178.163 (talk • contribs).

That exactly is the reason why it was removed. A stamp cannot be used for any other purpose than to illustrate the stamp itself. In other words, you cannot use a stamp to illustrate the subject depicted in the stamp. It is ok if the stamp is used in a philatelic article on the stamp itself. See Fair use criteria. Thanks. --Ragib 16:00, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you Ragib for your reply but I have gone through the above Fair use criteria and can't find anything that says "A stamp cannot be used for any other purpose than to illustrate the stamp itself. In other words, you cannot use a stamp to illustrate the subject depicted in the stamp. It is ok if the stamp is used in a philatelic article on the stamp itself.". No other image of that type of boat is availabel either. What do you suggest ? --124.43.221.101 12:05, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

See further at Category:Fair use stamp images. Thanks. --Ragib 16:37, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Img Help

I uploaded Image:Satveer Chaudhary.jpg for the Satveer Chaudhary page. Am I doing it right?Bakaman Bakatalk 00:19, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

To the best of my knowledge, work done by US Federal employees as part of their job is in the public domain. The source of the image indicates it is so, therefore, it should be in the public domain. Thanks. --Ragib 00:21, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Alright. Its just the first one I uploaded so I was unsure of all the rules and stuff.Bakaman Bakatalk 00:24, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Hkelkar/Workshop#Bakasuprman

Since you commented on the talk page, this may be of interest to you.Bakaman Bakatalk 20:28, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bangla 7 dine

Bengali language is now featured, in 7 days! Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 16:31, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] vidya balan

This deletion will hopefully be noncontroversial. Please delete all the cats with the name "brahmin" in it. Since you are a sysop, you can do it. For reference see Wikipedia_talk:Notice_board_for_India-related_topics/archive18#Caste_lists_vs._Caste_cats. Thanks.Bakaman Bakatalk 16:03, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Actually, you can do that after the article has been unprotected. It is unethical to edit an article using admin privileges while it is protected. Once the protection has been removed, I'll do what you've suggested above. Thanks. --Ragib 20:02, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suman chatterjee

I'm moving to kabir suman. Sounds unanimous.Bakaman Bakatalk 17:49, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External links on Carnatic music

Hi Ragib, there have been some repeated attempts of inclusion of links to commercial websites and forum websites (owned by one of the editors of Carnatic music). I have been sort of battling these incusions which violate WP policy on conflict of interest. This user complained to WP:PAIN and the ruling found no cause for action against me. However I might have inadvertantly breached WP:3RR during the last 24 hours when removing these links. I would like to assure you that this was not an attempt of edit/revert warring with the other users, but a genuine desire to cleanup the mess. I'd like your opinion/advise regarding what action I need to take. - Parthi talk/contribs 23:14, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suranjit Sengupta

This look right at all? শোরোন্জিত সেন্গুপ্তো . I'm using a transliteration program for Hindi, and wanted to see if it worked for Bengali. I need your eyes because cant check myself on Bangla tho, for obvious reasons (the problem with me not being able to read it). The input I put in the program was "Shoronjit Sengupta".Bakaman Bakatalk 01:26, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

The correct Bangla name is: সুরঞ্জিৎ সেনগুপ্ত. The স is pronounced here as sh. thanks. --Ragib 01:37, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
In my trans program the bangla script actually shows up. I dont have SP2 so it doesnt show up in my browser (all I see in the browser is question marks). Can you add the correct script to the article?Bakaman Bakatalk 01:41, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Please check out http://bangla.org.bd . It has a transliterator form. Even if you don't have the fonts, you can type in, and then click on view as image to see how the unicode will look like in a configured system. Thanks. --Ragib 01:48, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bangla transliteration/transcription

Hey Ragib,

After the discussions on the use of vernacular scripts on wikipedia pages, I am looking to replace these, as far as possible with an appropriate transcription and transliteration (IPA or ITRANS). Unfortunatetly, I haven't been able to find a universally acceptable table for Bangla transcription - could you help me out here? Thanks. Gamesmaster G-9 17:57, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

I think User:SameerKhan can help you with this (he's a linguist, so can do the IPA very well). As for non-Indian bios, especially Bangladeshi bio pages, there is actually no problem with the Bangla script (since Bangla is virtually the Only script used in Bangladesh). Thanks. --Ragib 18:01, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jamuna Bridge

Is that the same as "Bangabandhu Bridge"? I read about a Bangabandhu bridge in a book on Bangladesh somewhere, and the purpose sounds similar to the Jamuna bridge.Bakaman Bakatalk 00:11, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it is named as the "Bangabandhu bridge". The official name is "Bangabandhu Jamuna Bridge", though it is commonly referred to as just the Jamuna Bridge. Thanks. --Ragib 08:46, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thankyou,Ragib

Ragib thanx for allowing me to post on a Bangladeshi talk page,I didnt know the page was open to people who dont carry the citizenship,I know realise the difference between WD:Bangladeshis and the regular talk page just like the WD:Pakistanis. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nadirali (talk • contribs).

I left this message with this user and I got this. He needs to understand that editing Wikipedia is a privilege not a right. He does not own his talk page. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 01:25, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
I have blocked him for 48 hours because of disruption and threats. Of course, then he has threated to create a sock from the "Cybercafe across the street", and also to "Contact the owners of Wikipedia". Hope the cooling off period will allow him to get acquainted with rules and regulations and wikiquette. :) --Ragib 01:29, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Ragib - I shouldn't have interjected myself into this, but I did, and now I am frustrated with this person and his apparent bigotry, close-mindedness, incivility and disregard for policy and process. What can be done about it? He appears to be intractable. I'm going to follow the course of actively ignoring him, but that doesn't solve it for others. Never been involved in a conversation like this before on Wikipedia, wondering what the process is to remediate the situation. I know I'm speaking vaguely, so please ask me to clarify if necessary. Thanks,  Erielhonan  06:51, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
I suggest posting it to Administrator's noticeboard:incidents. The remedy will be longer blocks (if he continues his tirade against other editors), and possible protection of his talk page during his block period. Thanks. --Ragib 06:57, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. I'll pursue this tomorrow when I have time to write a little.  Erielhonan  07:07, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Hi Ragib, as someone who has experience of our friend BV, you will understand how hard it is to keep civility when one gets hit with his abuses everyday. I will control myself. Thanks for your caution. - Parthi talk/contribs 10:01, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I understand fully, but it is always better to maintain the moral high ground. Please keep within policies, even if sometimes it is hard to do so. WP:NPA is a great policy, and we should always adhere to it. Thank you. --Ragib 10:04, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Milestones

Hi,

Nothing significant, but still a nit-picking . How did you manage to get your 14,000th edit in October when your 15,000th edit was in September? — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 18:37, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Good catch!!! It should have been November. :) Thanks. --Ragib 19:46, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bogus articles by S Seagal

Please take a look at [1], which I have put up as a candidate for speedy deletion. Zero content and a hidden POV fork attempt just like the Indo-Bangladeshi border conflict article.Hkelkar 16:32, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Scope of India project

Ragib, Have posted this at Nichalp's and Sundar's talk pages as well. Need your advise. You were part of the discussion on WT:INB about adding a pre-independence parameter to the India project banner so that it will represent the Indian-subcontinent. User:Szhaider feels we are claiming the history of South Asia for ourselves. He wants these articles to be under the scope of newly created Wikipedia:WikiProject History of South Asia. He created this project and he is the only member. He is engaging in edit war by removing the India project banners from articles that are tagged as Indian-history related. I would like your advise about how to proceed, should I report this to WP:ANI, or should India project scope be limited to only-post-indepedence articles since this user feels Pakistani Wikipedians will be offended seeing Ashoka Chakra and India project links on the article tag pages (For example: Talk:Taxila). Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 20:00, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks alot Ragib

Hey Ragib,I saw the warning you gave the fellow.

Sorry I got ticked off at you,but I was under the impression that you were playing along the "double game".Everyone looses their temper at times,but it doesnt reflect their personality.

I request the previous message I placed there be removed,I dont want to attract more unecessary attention.

And I request the previous messages on my page be removed as they dont contain all that pleasant content.

Last of all I request to be allowed to post on the history of Bangladesh page,in order to remind people how guilty we Pakistanis are for the 1971 war.

Again thanks alot.

Nadirali 01:33, 2 December 2006 (UTC)Nadirali

[edit] Teamwork to spread knowledge.

Ragib,I have unfortunately fallen into the trap of "battle ground" laid out by some fanatics,who have come here for the mere purpose of mixing their POV with facts. I realise that responding in a "tit-for-tat" manner is exactly what they seek in order to turn wikipedia into the "battle ground" I reffered to,but rather a calm-manner(which hurts these attention seeking people the most)combined with facts. I am proud of the contributions I have made to wikipedia and will continue to do so. My request to you is simple:

-keep an eye on user/administrator Fowler&Fowler to prevent furthur violations. -keep an eye on the South Asian talk pages for any foul language or vandalism(which was made against me but ignored by administrator Fowler&Fowler) -keep a lock on hisory of India page until disputes are resolved.

I am on a mission on wikipedia and I invite you to join my mission by stating the objectives:

-to spread knowledge and truth

-to combat hostile users and corrupt administrators.

-to combat the growth of propaganda

-to combat any form of corruption

-to seperate fact form POV

-to fight hegimony of all forms

We can acheive all these objectives by working together and not by falling into the "battle-ground" as I have fallen into.

Questions: -Is it okay for me to post on a Bangladeshi talk page?(I know Im pakistani) -How do I post a POV check gem if I am unable to

Thanks alot for you help and support.Nadirali 01:49, 2 December 2006 (UTC)Nadirali

Thanks, but I am sorry, I'm not into forming groups/alliances in wikipedia. Such alliances are evil, because they often degenerate into POV pushing itself. Wikipedia is not a battleground, we all are here to write an encyclopedia, and if we stick to it irrespective of our ethnic or religious preferences, we can achieve that.
I've left the welcome message in your talk page, please read the policies because they are important. Please look into WP:NPOV, WP:CIVIL, WP:3RR, WP:NPA etc policies. Also Verifiability. By following these policies, it is possible to do constructive edits and make wikipedia better. I hope you'd make good, constructive contributions. I am not into any alliance with anyone; being on the side of WP:NPOV, WP:V is good enough. Thanks. --Ragib 05:03, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

That's what I meant,to keep off hegimony,false or harmful propaganda etc. and keep wikipedia as neutral as possible.It ws not my intention to invite you into an "alliance",but to work with me(and all progressive users)to improve this site and keep it going.Thanks for giving me links.Best regards Nadirali 05:27, 2 December 2006 (UTC)Nadirali

[edit] Good response!

[2]  :-D --BostonMA talk 01:51, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I just wanted to thank you for your very kind and helpful welcome message. Sjforman 23:24, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] mistake on your part

Ragib,I think youve made a mistake.That comments where the "personal attacks" was made was a comment written to me by that same user you threatened to block.I did not write those sentences using capital letters it was the same guy writing to me.

ThanxNadirali 03:33, 3 December 2006 (UTC)Nadirali

[edit] mistake regarding the "personal attacks"

Ragib,I think youve made a mistake.That comments where the "personal attacks" were made was a comment written to me by that same user you threatened to block.I did not write those sentences using capital letters it was the same guy writing to me.

ThanxNadirali 03:34, 3 December 2006 (UTC)Nadirali

[edit] Somone removed the warning from my talk page

Hi Ragib,I dont know who removed the personal attack warning from my talk page,but it was removed.

Yes that user is quite abusive.I have seen him use words such as "pussy" on india talk pages while administrator/user:Fowler&Fowler simply ignored him,which is why I ask you to watch him.

The things he wrote in capital letters which(was it you?) told him was considered "yelling".

Also,the reason why I got ticked off was I thought you were allowing others to vandalize my comments and write these hateful messages while watching me.Now I see how wrong I was.After you showed me the hateful messages you removed written by him,I realise how wrong I was about you and your intentions.

Again thanks alot.Nadirali 05:46, 3 December 2006 (UTC)Nadirali

[edit] Problem with user Seema0300

I wanted to get your attention towards the activities of the mentioned user. He/she has been continously replacing the article Balochistan conflict completely with a new one containing clear anti-Pakistani government POV. Although the original contents of the article also contain POV and has been tagged for its neutrality status but no better version is provided by any editor. The above mentioned user has been continously vandalizing the article. If you look at the contributions of the editor, you will come come to know that he/she is only interested in articles related to Balochistan conflict and nationalism. Regards voldemortuet 14:01, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] problems with User:Kumarnator

Hi Ragib,its me again.Sorry to be a bother to you,but User:Kumarnator doesnt stop sending me messages.I would like you to please request him to stop messaging other users unless he has something productive to say.Also please ask him to stop launching his personal attacks against me by using words such as "stupid" or "fool" or "pathetic."

By the way,I have armed myself with vandal proof.If you would like to arm yourself with one as well,just go to the category and add the code to your user page.You may find it very helpful.Thanks alot.Nadirali 21:55, 3 December 2006 (UTC)Nadirali

Forget it.The template code is useless as it does not automatically upload the program to your user page for you.You must upload the program seperately.Nadirali 05:55, 16 December 2006 (UTC)Nadirali

[edit] Use of stamp image in Chembai

Hi Ragib can you please see Chembai and verify whether the stamp image used there fits the guidelines for appropriate use? Thanks Parthi talk/contribs 09:54, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Could you kindly explain why you did this? ­ ॐ Kris (☎ talk | contribs) 19:42, 5 December 2006 (UTC)


The tag you applied incorrectly, was Newspapercover, which states:
This image is of a scan of a newspaper page or article, and the copyright for it is most likely owned by either the publisher of the newspaper or the individual contributors who worked on the articles or images depicted. It is believed that the use of low-resolution images of newspaper pages
  • to illustrate either the publication of the article or issue in question,
  • with the publication name either visible on the image itself or written in the image description above,
  • on the English-language Wikipedia, hosted on servers in the United States by the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation,
qualifies as fair use under United States copyright law. Any other uses of this image, on Wikipedia or elsewhere, may be copyright infringement. See Copyrights for more information.
As you can see, your use of the image is not valid under fair use criteria. Therefore, it doesn't qualify as Fair use. Thank you. --Ragib 19:47, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfC

Hi Ragib, I would appreciate your comment: Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Jance -- Samir धर्म 03:04, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:LostBot edits

Hi Ragib, sorry about that.. I had originally removed the cat, but it again crept in somehow. Will take more care. Thanks — Lost(talk) 19:34, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blcoked user reverting Copyvio messages anonymously

Hi Ragib, Please see this. User:Srkris who is under one week block has been editing anonymously and removing copyvio messages. - Parthi talk/contribs 01:36, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Ragib, thanks for your concerns. This issue is being currently handled by an admin ([see User_talk:Utcursch). User:Venu62 is trying to precipitate the issue by drawing the attention of several admins at once. This doesnt mean you can't or shouldn't act on it, but my suggestion is it's not necessary for more than a single admin to bother with the same thing. I am not a vandal and I have good reasons to protect my content which is allowed on Wikipedia under fair use considerations. Please see User_talk:Utcursch. Cheers. 59.92.83.63 14:54, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

It is not any one user's content to 'protect'. The question is how can an editor, blocked for incivility, copyright violations, bad faith, etc can circumvent the block by simply not logging in. If this is allowed then anyone can do anything. thanks Parthi talk/contribs 19:13, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Also, Ragib, I'd like to request you to warn Parthi to stop his mudslinging against srkris. He has no proof that the anon ip is srkris and yet even after his attempts for a checkuser were ignored by the checkuser admins, he's acting like he has solid proof that the ip and srkris are the same and is continuing with his shameless mudslinging. Neither the ip nor srkris have done anything against the rules of wikipedia and whatever disputes there may be they are all still under consideration and deliberations. User:Venu62 has no right to appropriate the moral high ground for himself and the reason i am intervening(note that I had scrupulously stayed out of this for nearly 2 months and have entered it only in the last couple of days) is because his private fight with srkris is spilling over everywhere and disrupting constructive editing.
And as far as srkris' supposed copyvios are concerned, I'd just like to say that as one who has attempted to upload pics unsuccessfully in the past, all the rules concerning uploading pics are very very vague for people new to uploading pics. As an admin, I'd like you to discuss this with other admins on irc perhaps, and come up with better wording for what is permissible and what is not. As it stands now, there's just too many vague rules and guidelines out there. Thanks. Sarvagnya 23:06, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Srkris has no defense concerning any Wikipedia policies he has violated, due to the fact he was already recommended by an admin to Wikipedia:Adopt-a-user when he was given his final warning [[3]] and blocked [[4]]. He chose not to follow the admin's advice, and has continued to unleash his POV, personal attacks and so on throughout Wikipedia, even after he has been blocked (I can give diffs if someone wants to dispute this). His constant disregard for Wikipedia policy, and constant refusal to fix his way of doing things here, should result in consequences, (otherwise, other Wikipedians would be entitled to get away with such behaviour, when they shouldn't). Ncmvocalist 01:11, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mahananda

Hi, I have disambigged mahananda . Check if any other common use of the word comes to mind, particularly from Bangladesh ? Cheers. ray 19:08, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] bengali scripts

more at the translation page--D-Boy 11:30, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Viqarunnisa Noon School and other academic organizations of Bangladesh

The Vickys articles indeed looked like spam, as it read completely like a piece of blatant advertisement. It may be the top school in Dhaka, but to establish that as a fact you need sorces and citations, not banal claims like excellent, best, finest super, amazing, wonderful and such. Not encyclopedic at all. When I deleted the POV stuff, I discovered practically nothing remains of the original article. The problem common with all academic organizations of Bangladesh. I guess all those articles call for ruthless editing, not tender loving protection. - Aditya Kabir 04:04, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Remove protection from Vidya Balan

why is this page still protected? It has been one month. everybody understands that this page should have Malayali and Devanagari ( Hindi ) scripts. Urdu is disputed. so please at least leave Malayali and Devanagari ( Hindi ) scripts in the article. The dispute about urdu can be resolved later. 68.61.233.160 14:57, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Happy New Year 2007

Happy New Year 2007 !!!
Dear Ragib,
New Year is the time to enjoy, party and rejuvenate oneself with a new spirit and enthusiasm. It is also the time to forget the past and begin a new life. Let us make the New Year’s resolution to:

I take this as an occasion to wish you and your family the best in the days to come on Wikipedia and in real life. May this New Year invigorate you, bringing you more happiness and content. Happy New Year 2007!!! and Happy Wikipediaing -- Amartyabag (Talk) 16:31, 31 December 2006 (UTC)|}

[edit] Eid Mubarak And Happy New Year

that's all via. Wish you lead up to victory. Tarif from Bangladesh 18:58, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] posting on Pakhub

Hi Ragib,I saw some of the posts you made on some discussion pages and also regarding the history of south asia talk pages.

I'd like you to post your opinions here on Pakhub http://www.pakhub.info/phpBB2/ We're looking for people's opinions regarding SA issues. You can simply register on the top right of the page.You're free to post any opinion regarding anything south asian related.

Ofcourse there's no hurry,whenever you're up for it.

But as a moderator of the site,I strongly discourage anyone to responding to comments posted by extremists(ie "Jihad" or any of that rubbish).

I hope you find the site intersting.

All the best.Nadirali 04:04, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Terrorism in country categories

I saw you created the Terrorism in Bangladesh category a while back. A new user is upset by the use of the word terrorism and is removing categories from pages at random. I would appreciate it if you would take a look at, and consider reverting the user's edits to, East Turkestan Islamic Movement, Grey Wolves, and Kurdistan Workers Party. Thanks, KazakhPol 02:42, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for welcoming me, a very new Wikipedian(?)

Thank you very much for supporting me and other new comers in a candid manner.I have gone through your advice and would definitely love to follow your suggestions.

I would end up with apology for being so late in my reply. But I believe you would excuse me as I was out of Wikipedia for long due to my other pre-occupations.

Whenever I need any assistance or support, I would seek these from you.

Thank you once again!

Hossain Akhtar Chowdhury 06:00, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Mauryan Empire Page

Hello Ragib,

As one of the key subcontinent administrators, you appear to be the right person to talk to about a debate. A user is attempting to curtail the ability of individuals to make edits to the Maurya Empire article. Specifically, there is a template dealing with languages. While everyone knows that there were hundreds if not thousands of languages on the subcontinent during that period, the user insists on including only greek and aramaic alongside the administrative languages of Pali, Prakrit, and Sanskrit and inaccurately posits greek and aramaic as the languages of the Northwest (in spite of the fact that Prakrit was in wider currency there). A previous administrator, Moralis, agreed that it made sense to maintain Prakrit as the Administrative Language (sourced by "Age of the Mauryas and Nandas" by Nilakantha Sastri) as the listing of hundreds of others would be of questionable aestheticity. But a new user reignited the debate and attempted to curtail editability. Your help and thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks for your time.

Regards,

Devanampriya

[edit] FYI: Your 1-week block of Users Szhaider, Nadirali, and Unre4L

Hi Ragib, For your information, since you figured in this posting, I thought I'd let you know that I posted the following on Rama's Arrow's talk page:

Dear Rama's Arrow, As someone who has done battle on occasion with all three users, I nonetheless feel that your recent week-long blocks of them, especially the latter two, are a little heavy-handed and over the top. I feel that they should have been given more warning, and perhaps slapped with 24-hour, or 48-hour or even 3-day blocks first. I went back and re-read WP:NPA, especially the following, which I'm sure you well know:

“ In extreme cases, even isolated personal attacks may lead to a block for disruption. Legal threats, death threats, and issues of similar severity, in particular, may result in a block without warning. However, administrators are cautioned that other resolutions are preferable to blocking for less severe situations when it is unclear if the "conduct severely disrupts the project". ”

In light of the above caution, I actually went through Unre4L's "contributions" log between the time you gave him a warning on his talk page and the time you issued a 1-week block. Although, I am sure you have your reasons for blocking him/her, I personally couldn't find anything that disruptive, and feel that the 1-week block is extreme punishment for the crime at hand. I am not asking for your reasons, but simply that two neutral administrators (like say Dbachmann, Nichalp (if he is not too busy), Saravask, Ragib, or Aksi_great) review the blocks, especially those of users Nadirali and Unre4L. Thanks! Regards, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 11:54, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Fowler&fowler«Talk» 14:31, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Pics

Wow, its amazing how you kept so busy during the vacation. For awhile ill actually be semi-active or inactive at times though.Bakaman 14:42, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Btw, I havent edited Hinduism in Bangladesh in quite a while. My name doesnt show up in the last 50 edits.Bakaman 04:05, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please read

Hi! You might want to read my post: Talk:Saare_Jahan_Se_Achcha#Words_and_Meanings and give your feedback there. Thanks! Fowler&fowler«Talk» 18:24, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bangladesh Portal

Thanks for your encouragement.

Please help fix the layout of Bangladesh portal page. -Arman Aziz 02:13, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Delete "Tahmima Anam"?

I think Tahmima Anam does not fulfil the notability requirement. If you agree, please raise a delete request - I'm not very familiar with this process. - Arman Aziz 07:03, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Same with Konnie Huq - Arman Aziz 09:33, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hello Ragib

Hi Ragib, You left a message on my talk page. As a matter of fact, I am চিনাৎসু on the Bengali Wikipedia. You are right - I will definately help with the progress of West Bengal articles. Thank you. :-) You seem to be doing loads of work on both the English and Bengali Wikipedia! --Akut 08:26, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Taj Mahal RFC

I've filed an RFC relating to the Taj Mahal at Talk:Taj Mahal#Request for Comment: Inclusion of minority points of view. Your comments would be welcome. Joopercoopers 17:56, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] blocking case

Hi Ragib - can you please examine this case (and related user talk:Unre4L) if/when you have some time. I need your frank input and advice on whether the block was justified and proper. Rama's arrow (3:16) 22:52, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] dhakeshwari

I'm confused as to what you wished for me to do on the page. Do I replace the mandap with a side view? Bakaman 04:22, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hello RE Bay of Bengal

Can you help me with my new template for the Bay of Bengal...Its name is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Bay_of_Bengal or Template:Infobox Bay of Bengal It looks ok on the template page, but I can't get it to peek in on the actual Bay of Bengal page, I was going to replace Profile Facts and Figures at a Glance with the template..If you don't mind, Thank you. SriMeshSriMesh January 24, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture needed

Ragib bhai, did you uploaded those pictures that you took of Old Dhaka. If you do, please select some of those for the featured picture section of Portal:Bangladesh. If we can manage 10-12 good pictures then it would be easier to rotate them every week. Tarif from Bangladesh 13:17, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Indian Rebellion of 1857

I'm afraid User:Jvalant is up to his usual tricks again: I really don't think this sort of thing is acceptable on a Talk Page (it wasn't directed at me), and as far as I can see there was no real provocation for it. Do you think you could tell him to behave? Sikandarji 16:22, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Apparently calling me a rabid dog and an arsehole was not provocation. And the user using such language was not even told anything. Such biased before in the future will lead me to making a formal complaint against you. (Jvalant 20:56, 27 January 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Ndixit01

Why do you keep taking away my name entry for Meghna?

Please explain. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ndixit01 (talk • contribs).

Meghna as a name is of little significance as an encyclopedia article, whereas the river is of high significance. Therefore, the links Meghna should redirect to the river.
However, I took your content and forked it into the article Meghna (name). Meghna now serves as the disambiguation page. Hope this helps. Thanks. --Ragib 23:56, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Skyscrapercity.com

Ragib, remember me- Dhakaiya, previously used to be kinda active in this place. I guess you uploaded several pics. to flickr. Thanks to your courtesy, the pics. have also been posted at skyscrapercity.com. I will really appreciate it if you can join that place and post some of the good things of Bangladesh in that place to improve our foreign image, I hope you'll help Bangladesh out. Dhakaiya-not logged in 11.45pm Dhaka time. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.79.18.152 (talk) 17:54, 29 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Thank You Ragib Bhaia

Thank you Bhaia for the welcome message. I have heard about you a lot from different sources. Its really nice to hear from you. Bhaia, I am working here for the last two years though I not in a formal way. I have some major contributions in UK university pages which includes UCL, King’s, UoL, Golden Triangle etc. Today I have decided to work in a formal way and joined the Bangladeshi University project. My first target is to construct my university page (East West University page). I will try my best to be neutral while doing the job. Tomorrow I will visit EWU and try to collect some necessary data like total number of students etc. Thank again for the links that you have provided. Some of them I visited earlier and some are new to me. I am sure they will help me to make the edit in a more accurate manner. Bhaia, I will be very happy if you give me some tips regarding wiki editing. I used to put the date and time manually. Later on from your message I got to know that it can be generated automatically use of four tildes (Niaz bd 07:16, 30 January 2007 (UTC)) though its not fully clear to me. Would you please explain it again ?

Regards,

Oppsss...I got it! (Niaz bd 07:17, 30 January 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Conundrum

Hi Ragib,

I am almost at the end of my tether with bickering on the Talk:India page. A number of editors, some well-intentioned (like user:Indianstar and user:AJ-India) and others of uncertain intentions (like user:Sarvagnya) would like to add (or, have already added and which I then reverted) various portions of text to many sections of the India page, an FA. These proposed edits, all initially made by user:Indianstar are not minor (i.e. they are of the size of a small paragraph), and they have not been discussed before. I have tried to start discussion going on the Talk:India page, for example: see Example1, or Example2 (the title of this section has been changed retroactively by user:Sarvagnya from "History section" to "Fowler's High-handed Reverts"). The problem as I see it is that the edits are either controversial, or cover old ground, or too listy. I get the feeling that these editors are not really interested in discussing the issues because they keep accusing me of "making a mountain out of molehill" or semantic obfuscation. Their view is that their edits are common-sense and 1 or 2 KB or text is no problem, and that no time should be wasted on discussion, especially elaborate discussion like mine. Here is an example of some responses: Example3 and Example4. In the background, user:Sarvagnya seems to be egging on the other editors to go ahead and add the reverted material again before the discussion is complete. I am trying to hold on until Nichalp returns from his vacation on February 4, but in light of user:Sarvagnya's unmitigated hostility, I am concerned. She/He has used uncivil language consistently. Here are some examples of language directed at me:

  1. "Will someone do me a favour by drilling it into his skull ..."
  2. "hiding behind an admin to justify juvenile editing practices ..."
  3. "Just improve it. Dammit."

In spite of my civil reminder to desist (see here), she/he has continued with his uncivil language and earlier today she/he changed the title of the discussion section retroactively from "History Section" to "Fowler's High-handed Reverts". (The discussion section incidentally had been started by me.) I am trying to keep my cool, but it is frustrating to hear such language consistently, when most of me, judging from the level sophistication of her/his writing, is itching to say something. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 20:11, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Wow! Another mischevous act of misrepresentation of my stand by Fowler. Anyway first things first. Talking of decorum or the lack of it on my part that Fowler seems to be harping on, may I remind him that he has called me a vandal for no reason other than his own ignorance of the rules.

His condescending edit summaries, couple of which I have pointed out on the India talk page, smack of unbridled contempt for the efforts of other editors; not to mention his ignorance of several WP policies.

And indulging in revert after revert after revert without any explanation whatsoever is like dealing a slap on the other editors face with scant respect for his/her efforts. Forget simple reverts, for someone who acts so very 'holier-than-thou', did he even bother to let people know before he rolled the page back two months?!

Its one thing to play to a gallery of admins and another to not lose sight of objectivity. He royally betrays his misplaced priorities at every step. He seems not to or not willing to understand that issues like style, formatting, grammar, article size etc., are NOT excuses to blank content or roll pages back two months!!

For example, there was this content about G4 and India's bid for a permanent seat that Indianstar had added. A bid for the permanent seat is an extremely significant and notable fact about India as is its space programme and its nuclear programme. So says commonsense. But not Fowler. He simply goes ahead and blanks it out offering no explanation other than another of his ill informed edit summaries(rv content that was added without discussion!!).

And when other editors decide that they will brook no more nonsense and demand an explanation of him, he comes back and sheepishly says that Indianstar's version was too wordy and that he'd have no objection if the same was mentioned more concisely as they've done on Japan!! So in effect, he has blanked out(vandalised??) content which even he agrees with, simply because the fact wasnt worded well??! What does he think he's doing! Has he even heard of cpedit?

And it is not like I am taking exception to his reverts because I have some sinister agenda. I've observed his editing behaviour since the last two months. And I see a disturbing and disruptive pattern and that is precisely why I've said what I've said. Its not like I am against every revert he does. Some, like the one he did today(the Afghan historian one) are certainly justified. But such ones are very few and far between considering that he has dozens of reverts to his name (counting just just this one article) in the short time that he's been on WP.

Sample the facts that he's blanked out:

  • India's bid for a permanent seat
  • India's nuclear capability
  • India's successful space programme. and many many many more.

Explanations offered : NONE. None until fellow editors took him to task. Sarvagnya 21:14, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RfC

Hi, I've started a RfC Talk:India#Request_for_Comment:_Adding_new_material_to_the_India_page_history_section. Any comments and feedback at your convenience will be welcome! Fowler&fowler«Talk» 03:45, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] photograph/picture of eid prayer at Baitul Mukarram

Hi!I would request you to help in inserting a photo of eid prayer at the Baitul Muqarram mosque in Dhaka at Eid ul-Fitr article of wikipedia.

Can you help me please?

Hossain Akhtar Chowdhury 12:16, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Sculpture

Ragib bhai, a new sculpture of language movement is being created at Bangla Academy. I haven't seen it yet but heard about it in prothom alo. It may not be very big. Anyway do you think this deserves an article at the wiki?Tarif from Bangladesh 18:30, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spelling Error of the bengali word Bangladesh

Hi I was just browsing the article at Wiki on Bangladesh and noticed a spelling error. The Bangladesh (in the Bengali language) is spelled wrong. I tried to correct it. However, it seems to have changed back to the wrong spelling. What is neccessary to fix this?

Regards Swagato http://bhattaswagato.info —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 138.25.196.115 (talk) 09:02, 1 February 2007 (UTC).


[edit] bengali

“ Ari Gadha'r baccha, ami BhaiSaab na. BhaiSaab shaheb ekjpon Pakistani, Ami Bangali. Bangali'r and Pakistani's parthokko bujen na? ”

courtesy of MinaretDk (talk • contribs)

Gadha'r baccha = donkey's son? Bakaman 03:45, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I've emailed you the translation. --Ragib 03:49, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm not in a position to check my email, looks like I have to call out my bangla skills. ami bangla bolchhi, konne notoon khobor chhilo ? Bakaman 04:23, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
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