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[edit] Barnstar

For consistently striving to improve articles of The Subcontinent with over 11,000 edits and never letting vandals, trolls and other creatures to spoil the wikiparty, I, Idleguy award you the Upholder of Wiki. --Idleguy 11:56, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
For consistently striving to improve articles of The Subcontinent with over 11,000 edits and never letting vandals, trolls and other creatures to spoil the wikiparty, I, Idleguy award you the Upholder of Wiki. --Idleguy 11:56, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

This was a long time coming. :) --Idleguy 11:56, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the barnstar :). --Ragib 20:46, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RFM

Am I to take it that this is an indication of refusal to mediate? It would be most helpful if you would indicate as much on Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Indo-Pakistani War of 1971, at least as a courtesy to the Mediation Committee. Essjay (Talk) 00:12, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for Mediation

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[edit] Portal:Nanotechnology

Hi Ragib - do check out this new portal - need your help in building and customizing it. Rama's arrow - this Fire burns always 03:36, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hi Rajib/Sameer

OK, Keep in touch. I got two friends from the land of Mohammad Ashraful . Thanks and Best rgds , Jyothish. Jothishkumart 05:06, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Same to you! --SameerKhan 07:57, 29 July 2006 (UTC)#

[edit] Languages

Hi Ragib! Can you translate my name in what language you know please, and then post it Here. I would be very grateful if you do (if you know another language apart from English and the ones on my userpage please feel free to post it on) P.S. all th translations are in alpahbetical order so when you add one please put it in alpahbetical order according to the language. Thanks!!! Abdullah Geelah 15:47, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for helping out with the bengali translation! --Soman 15:21, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help with a few ignorant and stubborn people

Sorry to be bothering you Ragib but it seems there are forces out there that try to keep facts in check through their own take on history. Case in point seems to be a certain user RedArrow who despite my best attempts to provide a balanced view of the Atlantique Incident and despite Bharatveer's reverts on the article keeps moving back to his own version despite lack of neutral sources. Moreover he takes this flawed version to the Pakistan Navy too and argues that the PNS Ghazi somehow "singlehanndedly blockaded" the entire Western Naval fleet based on one source - Defence Journal - a Pakistani military publication. Despite trying to provide contradictory evidence or the lack thereof, in the talk pages he refuses to accept it accusing me of POV etc.

Additionally you might want to take a look at (and keep it in your watchlist) Richard Nixon where User:Rjensen origianlly claimed the 1971 genocide and the relevant recordings on Nixon and Kissinger were "original research" then after a glance at the BBC article seemed to change the entire wordings to suit his needs. Please assist. Tx --Idleguy 18:40, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi again Ragib. It seems I too had violated the 3RR. :| But in the Richard Nixon article, you have actually warned the lesser of the two problematic editors, i.e. Cripipper instead of Rjensen who has been blatantly adding fake history when the source given says otherwise. This diff says "Nixon was reluctant to give any vocal support" when the source says they provided military assistance. I'm restoring only the select paragraph instead of reverting. I hope that's not a problem. Idleguy 02:00, 31 July 2006 (UTC)


btw, the Atlantique Incident and Pakistan Navy remain unreverted with a propagandist version on events. I've provided neutral sources like TIME and orbat.com among others but it seem like banging on a brick wall when I try to point that this link says nowhere "stolen" debris of the plane as he keeps insisting. Same situation with the PN page. Idleguy 02:25, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
If you can spare some time, try looking at Richard Nixon page histories where despite providing sources he keeps claiming that the 71 genocide was first "Indian claim" then "media reports". It seems he has little grasp on the events of the 71 war but being a staunch pro-Nixon fan seems to put him on a pedastal. After I made so many edits to enlarge the perspective he now has tagged it as POV since he seemed to have been offended by so much bad publicity. I've also reported User:RedaRRow for 3RR but it seems he is blatantly misquoting sources and blindly reverting any edits of mine, even ones attempted to reach a compromise. Please take some time to resolve these issues since I myself am constrained by time. Idleguy 13:47, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Nonsense: I have been adding correct history. The article is about Nixon and it should explain his policies, not be used as a launch pad to vent Indian hatreds of Pakistan--and Indian resentlment that Nixon privately called Indira a witch! The issue as Nixon explained was how to avoid war and help the refugees, while keeping a strong American ally. This is not the article to discuss the atrocities -- it is about American policies. Rjensen 21:00, 31 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Atanveer9

Ragib,

Are you Wikipedia employee or just a user? I am still confused what gives you the right to delete any new entry without event understanding the content.

I am adding a new entry to define the term BDEvents which has recently been a talk topic between all Bangladeshis in USA. It is not a company nor a profit sharing website. It is just a community and forum like BNP or Jatiya Party.

Not sure how much you understand of that and why you delete any further entry.

So for curiosity my question is, are you employed by wikipedia (so have been asked to protect any new term) or you just get notified for anything to do with bangladesh? How does it work? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Atanveer9 (talk • contribs).

Wikipedia doesn't have "employees" per se, rather it is built with a worldwide group of volunteer editors. A task for them is to detect advertising, hoax, and spam. Wikipedia also has a group of administrators who are authorized to remove content. I edit Bangladesh related articles extensively, and noted your spam to several pages. Wikipedia is not the place to promote your website, no matter what the goals of your site is. Thank you. --Ragib 18:25, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
please add your name to Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Richard Nixon Rjensen 20:56, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for Mediation

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[edit] User:Duncharris

Hi. I'm assuming you know that most of the edits that User:Duncharris reverts are mine. He's accused me of trolling, and I'd like to make my position on this clear, before anyone starts blocking me for incivility or the like. You're impartial, so I feel it'd be best to make my case here, on your talk page.

Duncharris sometimes makes his views felt rather strongly on some topics, notably railways and pseudoscience. I myself am a bit of a railway buff, so on some edits we can clash slightly. When we do, I try to stay calm, and I leave a civil note on his talk page, which gets promptly reverted. Some of his edit summaries, notably [1], [2], [3] and [4] can get a little grating at times, so I leave him a warning, which again gets promptly reverted, followed by edits on Greenfinch's talk page, removing my notice on edit summaries, and removing cleanup tags I placed at here and here(both of which on articles I often watch for vandalism, and which he has never before edited). The most recent note I left was on this edit summary, which frankly in my opinion was uncalled for. I admit at times I have been less than civil, but I hope you can see where I'm coming from.

I don't expect you to do anything about this, but I hope this at least shows my viewpoint on matters. Thankyou HawkerTyphoon 19:43, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't know and don't want to know about whatever disagreement or issues exist between Dunc and you, but in any case, if you feel his actions are improper, please make a note at Admin's noticeboard or Admin's noticeboard/Incidents. Thanks. --Ragib 19:48, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ziaur Rahman

Hi - I've started this article's FA drive. Need your help! Rama's arrow 02:03, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Plz take a look here.

The person you had blocked once has been confirmed of having sockpuppets.You are requested to take appropriate action [5].Holy |Warrior 05:14, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bengali novels-Help needed

Hi Ragib Bhai, I have created above mentioned article but have failed to cite the references in the right place. I mentioned the reference in the bottom, but how to refer to it? Would you please have a look?

Please see WP:CITE to see the ref-styled references. You can also check out pages like Bangladesh to see how these are used. --Ragib 05:20, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Furthermore, After completion of writing this article, I want to add zist of it into Bengali literature. Is it possible? Thanks - Auyon 14:01, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Sure, that's the style preferred in wiki .... i.e. move specific info to its own article, and add the summary to the parent article, and link to the child using the {{main article}} tag. --Ragib 05:20, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stamps

Hello. I read your comments on fair use stamps. I am not very clear about the fair-use issue yet. For example Image:Bhatkhandestamp.jpg was removed from the article Vishnu Narayan Bhatkhande. I had uploaded the image to "to illustrate the stamp in question". I put the image to illustrate the sentence "The Posts and Telegraph Department of India also paid homage to Pandit Vishnu Narayan Bhatkhande by releasing, on 1 September, 1961, a commemorative stamp portraying Bhatkhande. That particular date was chosen as it was Janmashtami on that day.". The sentence was in the death and legacy section. There cannot exist free images of a stamp and it will come in public domain after many years. So there doesn't exist any way to illustrate the stamp in question. Isn't that a valid fair use? - Aksi_great (talk - review me) 07:47, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, the image description page for the image you mentioned above does not have the fair use rationale. If you do refer to the stamp in the text (not a one liner, but at least something more than that), and use the stamp image right there, the stamp usage may be justifiable under "Fair use".
I myself added a lot of stamp images to articles in the past. However, I had a discussion with another user over this, which led me to read the guideline in detail. Many of the stamps are used in article as yet another image to illustrate the subject. Just adding a caption like "Postage stamp of <insert country name> to commemorate <insert person name>" isn't an argument for fair use of the stamp image. Unless the text has specific, non-trivial mention of the stamp, it should not be used. "Fair use" is a very vague criteria, and it is better not to walk the thin red line ... if we are to keep wikipedia as free as we want it to be. Thanks. --Ragib 22:38, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
This image survived the deletion. Now I know why. Ragib, Thanks for the explanation. - Ganeshk (talk) 22:45, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Not sure why Image:Baba Kanshi Ram.jpg had a problem. It had a fairuse rationale and was illustrating the person in question. Ragib, can you please advise? - Ganeshk (talk) 23:05, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
As I said above, stamps are allowed *only to illustrate the stamp, not the subject*. So, stamps are perfectly ok in philatellic articles. However, when it comes to biography pages of the subject, claiming it is fair use to have the stamp is questionable. I looked into the article, the stamp is not at all the focus of the article. So, the stamp you mentioned would have been ok in something like "Indian postage stamps on freedom fighters", but can't be used just by saying "India issued a stamp on him <stamp image>" in the article text. It is sort of like the Time magazine covers issue. It is better to have the article free under GFDL rather than have a "fair use" image, where the usage may become questionable. Thanks. --Ragib 23:53, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation. I think I got the point now. I will make it a point to add fair-use image only if there is a real need for it. You can go ahead and delete the image. Cheers. - Aksi_great (talk - review me) 05:09, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Hi, meeting you after a long gap. Thanks for explaining the matter of e-mail to Jothishkumart. And, you have also made me "Bhadanijee" - I would like to be called Bhadani Moshai Apanee Kemon? --Bhadani 17:01, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] thanks

Hi Rajib,

Thanks for your help

rgds jyothish 17:21, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] hello, mr. ragib

hello, mr ragib. nice to get ur wise advice.thnx. howver, let me introduce myself to u. i am mahadi mahmud. i have seen ur user page and i am so proud of u for ur contribution in wikipedia of bangladesh. this is just a thnx sms. keep well & take care. willing the wish: mahadi mahmud

[edit] a few queries

dear ragib bhai,i will try to get the ISBNs.as you know i am currently working on language movement i know you will help me on this.i have a few questions on this now: you talked about scholar references.now bashir al helal is a bangla language expert, ex director of bangla academy.he also researched a lot about a lot about languase movement and in his book their is no information which is without a proof.he also actually wrote the language movement article on bangla pedia.so would he be a scholar. Please confirm me this.another thing is in the dailies of that time a lot about language movement is published which also includes in other books.in that case from where shall i refer from?one more thing.how can i john the bangladeshi wikipedian list. .you will be glad to know that i am editing from mobile.i was sick for a few days and couldn't contribute on language movement much. I hope this will start again tomorrow. I will try unfollow your tips and wonderful guideline.and to know how glad i an about you plz read the previous message.thanks a lot.goodbye. tarif ezaz(sorry,haven't sign in yet.)

[edit] File upload for Salil Chowdhury

Ragib -

I seem to be having trouble with this file SalilChowdhury1002.jpg on the Salil Chowdhury home page. It was deleted last nite - and I had taken your suggestion on assignment of the GFDL-Self tag. I have reloaded the file this morning. Please advice. thanks - bobby

[edit] Need ur friendly help

hello mr ragib how r u?thnx for ur advice. i think u can help me a lot about wikipedia. contact me if u can. --mahadi mahmud 18:52, 8 August 2006 (UTC) ecstasy_aiub@yahoo.com

[edit] Ishwar Gupta article

The Bengali script on the article shows up as a line of question marks. I made a Hindi version of his name but since I can't read/write/ or speak Bengali (my mom is from Calcutta so I understand it) could you see if you can get the Bengali script to display? Bakaman Bakatalk 23:32, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

The Bengali script appears fine to me, because I have the related Bangla unicode fonts (Interestingly, these are installed by default with WinXP service pack 2). You can of course install some fonts from http://www.ekushey.org . Let me know if you need any help with that. Thanks. --Ragib 23:34, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Actually I can't read or write Bengali, only Devanagari. The thing I noticed was that the Beangli fonts don't display while Devanagari fonts do.Bakaman Bakatalk 15:24, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfC

Since you are an admin, I request you to take a look at HolyWarrior's (I saw your discussion with Blnguyen so I scrapped the "conspiracy theory". I found out you also felt his wrath so sorry for accusing you.) RfC he filed on me [6]. Half the diffs don't pertain to me. He also is conniving with another user to (possibly) get me blocked [7]. He has a nice and colorful record of personal attacks and now is harrassing me. I also showed this to Rama's Arrow who said the RfC had no case and was improperly made.Bakaman Bakatalk 03:28, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi there Ragib. Since you have some awareness of these matters, you are welcome to give your opinions on the conduct of Holywarrior, BhaiSaab, Bakasuprman, and Subhash_bose recently, as there is a long long discussion which may be a bit complex, so it would be good to see if there is something I've gotten confused or made a worng call on (I've spent at least 6-7 hours in the last two days studying all the shenanigans). Thanks, Blnguyen | rant-line 05:20, 9 August 2006 (UTC).
User:BhaiSaab (the one trying to get me blocked) has put a case on the Wp:AN board [8] . Many of these edits came before I learned what Wp:NPA even was. Some were from my first edits ever on Wiki, even before I was welcomed by thunderboltz. He has been digging through my CONTRIBUTIONS for any thing he can get his hands on.Since I apologized to the attacks I made on you above I feel they are null. I also worked out my problems with User:Hornplease. I have decided to spend less time arguing and more time contributing like on the (Bengal history pages). The admininstrator who BhaiSaab contacted for the case became hostile when I confronted him about how BhaiSaab never notified me of any case.[9] I would like to have time to contribute but these Rfc, Rfa and all this garbage has been sapping my time. Since I found out Holywarrior also attacked you, I value your input on this attack. Bakaman Bakatalk 21:51, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] picture

mr. ragib. Though i am a man of khulna, i dont live there. after a few days i will go to khulna again. then i will bring picture of my khulna as more as i can. but, for better editing, i know ur help. wish, u will beside me. hoping so....--mahadi mahmud 07:56, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] size

how does one figure out article sizes? I was thinking abt attempting to improve RU, and am thinking this should probably be a shortish 25kb thing--ppm 18:30, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

It shows up at the top of the edit box. But good article sizes are near 36-46 KB range.--Ragib 18:48, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
that's just it. it doesn't (seemingly) if the article is too small.--ppm 16:04, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Banglapedia

The site Banglapedia seems to be a really good resource for Bengal related articles. Just thought I'd share it with you. Bakaman Bakatalk 01:35, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Banglapedia is the national encyclopedia of Bangladesh. It is not, technically, created by the govt, rather it was funded by the Govt and other organizations, and created by university and college professors, scholars, intellectuals under the Asiatic Society of Bangladesh. The search.com.bd site is actually a mirror ... a lot of them sprang up after Banglapedia released their content on CD. --Ragib 01:43, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh, that explains quite a bit. Its a great site, I got a lot of info on 19th century and stuff from there. Bakaman Bakatalk 04:04, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

On the Vangiya Sahitya Parishad article, it says the Maharaja donated 7 ""kathas" of land. Do you know what a katha is? I felt it was a notable fact so I rewrote on the Wiki page, but I would like to know the measure of a katha.Bakaman Bakatalk 17:21, 10 August 2006 (UTC)


Katha is a measure of land used in Bengal. 1 katha = 720 square feet. 1 bigha = 20 katha = 14,400 square feet. See [10] for more details. --Ragib 17:25, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question and Answer in Indian Parliament is not copy right of any News Paper

Question and Answer in Indian Parliament is not copy right of any News Paper vkvora 05:10, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

No, but the presentation of the text (i.e. the news report itself, and the text structure/sentence/presentation therein) *is*. You could simply have written it in your own words. Copypasting a copyrighted news item is copyright violation. Thanks. --Ragib 05:12, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Entire news were from Press Trust of India and PTI obtain the news from Indian Parliament. Indian Parliament were discussing about survey done by somebody else and Minister was replying the question for dangerous Indian place for children.
However I have noted the contents and thanks Ragib Bhai. vkvora 14:42, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sandesh

Yeah, a lot of websites I found said paneer [11], [12]. Also the channa side has a large amount of recipes too. Is the chana version more prevalent? Bakaman Bakatalk 18:04, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm, it appears that I was mistaken ... it IS made from a form of cottage cheese. Sorry about that (never made sandesh ... only a big fan of it :D ). --Ragib 18:07, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Actually we could say it is also made from chana. I found many recipes calling for chana. I'll say "Some recipes of Sandesh call for the use of Chana instead of Paneer" Bakaman Bakatalk 18:09, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Banglapedia shows regional variants of Sandesh made from mawa or dried milk, and dried curd too. --Ragib 18:11, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Could you tell me the correct code to cite references at the bottom of the page? On the Sandesh Page I typed the three sites that I got info from again (as references) but they showed up as links #4,5,6 instead of showing the #1,2,3. Bakaman Bakatalk 01:28, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposal for stub

Proposal for Indian food stub. I know you are Bangladeshi, but the Indian culture, and probably also Bangladesh stubs are filling up with food stubs instead of culture stubs. I request you to support the proposal so we can collaborate on more articles on Bengali food and other Indian food. Bakaman Bakatalk 02:19, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE : population of muslims in india

At least, the population figure for East Pakistan (1971) stated above is *wrong*. The population of independent Bangladesh, according to the 1974 census, was 71.3 million [8]. Even considering the large number of Bengalis (between 1-1.5 million) (both Hindu and Muslims) killed by Pakistan Army in Bangladesh Liberation War of 1971, the number was never above 75 million at that time. The population of west pakistan was lower than this, as Bengalis were 56% of the population of united pakistan. --Ragib 20:47, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

On my part i found the information from some old arcives from the liaquat national library here in karachi and the arcives were official pakistani documents of the time.

never the less according to cia world fact book the bangladeshi population is 147,365,352 (July 2006 est.) and the pakistani population is 165,803,560 (July 2006 est.) so how do we explain this —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Madman 0014 (talk • contribs).

Well, the 1974 census IS an official, scientific document, and definitely that contradicts whatever stats you have. As for the current estimate, are you asking me why Pakistani population is larger than that of Bangladesh? Perhaps population control and family planning activities are not as successful in Pakistan as they are in Bangladesh? The population growth rate figures suggest just that. Thanks. --Ragib 08:15, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

what iam saying is that due to differnt political resons the population is shown more or less wether it be pakistan,bangladesh or india my real question was on the muslim population of india? --User:Madman_0014

[edit] Time zone in Bangladesh

Hi Ragib! Would you know what was the time zone of Bangladesh when it was East Pakistan? Thanks =Nichalp «Talk»= 17:08, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cunado19

Salam,

Cunado19 reverted the RASHAD KHALIFA article 3 times. Please take the neccessary actions, I sugguest locking the article. Davidaitken 21:08, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hi ragib

Please visit [13] page and add your personal email (if you don't mind) at the bottom for better collaboration, networking and comunication. Thanks :) Omerlives

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[edit] Renaissance

Just like the renaissance in europe was from the 1300-1500's the Bengali renaissance (At least in my view) was at least from Ram Mohan Roy times (Early 1800's) to Independence (1947) when Bengal was split in two. The period, (at least to my understanding) was a time for the intellectual flowering of Bengali people, and I'm certain Kazi Nasrul was a major contributor to bengali literature. As for SC Chattopadhyay, he was in the same time period with Tagore, and since Tagore was an undisputed force in the renaissance, I added SC by association.Bakaman Bakatalk 23:50, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

It says Nasrul fell into depression in 1941. Also, people like Tagore contributed well into the 1940's. Nasrul, as the wiki page says, made most of his contribs in the 20's, thereby keeping him in the "early twentieth century". Bakaman Bakatalk 23:56, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hi Ragib, can u guide me?

Hi Ragib,

Pinaki here. I introduce myself as a multilingual author, writing both in Bengali and English. I have 5 published books (publisher Dey's Publishing of Kolkata) in Bengali, 2 of which became bestsellers. I am also noted in Kolkata as being the first person in India to launch Bengali language greeting cards (brand Swapner Karkhana created by me. Being a designer & copywriter I design most of the releases myself. I am also a very regular writewr of well known Indian Bengali magazines like Sananda and Unish Kuri. My site is www.pinaki.bravehost.com

It seems you have read books of my father, Prabir Ghosh; the rationalist. I am presently writing ebooks, webcontent etc in English, for clients from US, UK and Germany. Why I am writing al these is that I saw your note about my father and became interested about you and studied your achievements. They are fantastic!!! Can you guide me and let me know, how I can become a wikipedia official editor like you? Surely they pay for the work? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pinaki ghosh (talk • contribs).

I've replied in your talk page. Thanks. --Ragib 18:11, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the intimation

Thanks for replying. Yes, I have taken a look at the Bangla version and I'd love to help but first I need to get some articles written that I think are absolutely essential in the English version... I am currently working on Midnapore, Byomkesh Bakshi, Tenida. I am also starting some pages on Bangla bands soon. So, I'll can start working in Bangla in probably a week or so. :) Antorjal 04:56, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A few requests from a Bangladeshi

Hey Ragib! Remember, its me Dhakaiya, the person who gave you the well deserved barnstar for contributing to Bangladesh related articles in Wikipedia. Could you PLEEEEEEASE organize the photos in Photo Gallery Section of Dhaka? By the way, there isn't an artilce on Bangladesh Police. You lay the foundation for the articles and I shall provide 1 or two pictures. At the moment I am trying to improve Dhakas image and Bangladesh Military related articles. Already uploaded a photo in Bangladesh Army page.

[edit] Photo Upload

Ragib bhai sorry to bother you.as you know that i have been working on language movement.according to your direction i gathered some pictures of the event.but i dont know a lot about the limit of the size of the picture.my pictures are sized between 2 to 3 M.B.should i upload this or reduce the size of the pictures.please inform.i am continuing my work on language movement and hoping to cover the event took place on february 21.please give me any tips and commands and i will try to follow.thanks for reading. Tarif Ezaz Bangladesh 16:21, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Admin

Can i be an admin on the Bengali language wikipedia. I will do a good job. You need admin and i am willing.

user:culverin 06:24, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I am sorry, but you are not a regular editor there. We do have an Request for adminship page there, but I don't think you can pass there without *any* contributions in Bangla wikipedia. Right now, we do have 5 administrators, (all of whom are regular, active contributors), which is more than enough for our purposes. But thanks anyway for your interest. --Ragib 06:29, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

I was scared because I have had a sort of checkered history on wiki. I really got afraid when I saw that Netaji's sock request was confirmed without a checkuser. Thanks for giving me a second chance.Bakaman Bakatalk

[edit] thanks!

Hey man - many thanks - I am especially grateful for this! I've really enjoyed working on various Bangladeshi topics - got a fresh, deep interest in the country. Btw, sorry for the delay in completing work on Ziaur Rahman - have been a little busy lately. I think I can finish most of the work by this weekend. Rama's arrow 22:22, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Automation

I saw your comment over at User:Jimbo Wales. Has there been any automated addition of articles to the Bengali wikipedia? Early on the English wikipedia became vastly bigger when User:Ram-Man used User:Rambot to automatically add thousands of city articles. Also did you see the reply User:Jimbo Wales about the signpost? If you want I can help you write the article, I belive it would be quite interesting. -Ravedave (help name my baby) 02:48, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Portal:Bangladesh

Yo - request your help in making Portal:Bangladesh featured! Please check out Wikipedia:Peer review/Bangladesh portal Rama's arrow 16:06, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bangla wikipedia

Hi Ragib, many thanks for your invitation. I am very much interested in Bangla wikipedia and the only reason I could not become a part of it yet is that my system did not have support for Indic scripts until now. As soon as I become able to gather the requirements you will find me as an active member of it.

Thanks for your welcome note once again.--Iball 18:33, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

  • I also need your help on this. Kindly mention the particular font and text input software which you recommend.--Iball 20:09, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Dear Ragiv, Thank you for adding the Bengali name to Taraknath Das; you are most welcome to think of the other personalities I have written about. After you have solved your REAL LIFE occupations, will it be convenient for you to add some photos to a few of these articles ? Even if I am awkward in this matter, I can send you the photos. Regards. BobClive--BobClive 05:56, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Temples & stuff

I made an infobox for Hindu temples Template:Mandir infobox. The banglapedia article has the most info on it, but I only have time for a passing glance right now. If you could find an image, that would really be appreciated, so the infobox looks nice.Bakaman Bakatalk 17:23, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] mughalstan

actually the site went off the main server about a month ago, after it was banned by indian government. I was no way involved in the creation of the article, so you will have to wait for some time for further information. But it is not an original research, as tagged by you. It just reported the views of some organisation. nids(♂) 05:29, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, Dalitstan is a real site, but the server is down. A google search will bring out the cache for all the info.Bakaman Bakatalk 16:36, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kantaji Temple

I made a large edit here. I kept a section copied (but quoted and sourced) from Bangalpedia commented out, pending a possible rewrite. Since you are an admin, I was looking at the proper way to present the info.Bakaman Bakatalk 19:57, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't exactly understand what the numbers mean in the text. I'm not an expert in architecture and some of the wrods they use to describe it are words I have never hearsd before. I rewrote about a third of it, and kept the rest commented out for now. I will re-write the rest a bit later.Bakaman Bakatalk 17:54, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jenah stamp

It's public domain because the stamp was issued before 1979, i.e. before the Iranian revolution. The current government of Iran does not recognize any stamp, currency, or bank notes printed prior to the revolution. Simply put, the Islamic Republic of Iran officially considers the pre-revolutionary government of Iran illegal.--Zereshk 16:08, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

If I recall correctly, I took the image myself. It is from my personal stamp collection. The resolution is low because the stamp itself was printed low quality.
However I dont think this is very important as the image now has been orphaned. It's practically useless anyway.--Zereshk 17:27, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sakta Pitha

10 minutes after creation, its already been prodded. Do you know how to get in unprodded? Bakaman Bakatalk 18:02, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

I moved it to Shakti Pitha. Its the more proper use of the word, and added a crude English traslation.Bakaman Bakatalk 18:05, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure whether the literal translation works (the Shakti is probably referring to the Shakti sect?). But anyway, you can add another source ... right now, it only refers to Banglapedia. Prod's can be removed if you oppose it. But in any case, it is not possible to delete a well referenced article. So, your next step should be to find out more refs. --Ragib 18:11, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Swami Ramdev

Its been eroded by IP vandals and the like. I commented out sections for User:Wikipost to rewrite. If he isn't forthcoming, I will rewrite it myself.Bakaman Bakatalk 02:57, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Can you semiprotect it? User:Sfacets, User:Wikipost and I are trying to make it good but IP addresses keep messing with it. Bakaman Bakatalk 18:11, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Are you referring to this edit? That isn't much of a vandalism as to warrant Semi-protection. --Ragib 01:33, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
Yes but Sfacets has been forced to violate 3RR more than a handful of timesBakaman Bakatalk 16:43, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
Yes but he has done that same edit at least 10 times and vandalized the pranayam section 3 times [14]

[15] [16]. Look at the contrib history of this IP 59.160.174.12 contribs.Bakaman Bakatalk 16:47, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Comment from Habz

RAGIB,

WHY HAVE YOU LOCKED THE DRISHTIPAT SITE? I ADDED A LEGITIMATE POINT ABOUT DRISHTIPAT LONDON BEING FULL OF DHAKAIYAS (WHILE MOST OF US HERE ARE SYLHETIS). I EVEN PROVIDED A LINK TO THE DRISHTIPAT THREAD WHERE A MEMBER ADMITS THIS. SO WHY ARE MY EDITS BEING BLOCKED?

A TRUE PICTURE OF DRISHTIPAT SHOULD BE PROVIDED TO PEOPLE WHO READ THIS SITE.

DID U KNOW THAT ASIF SALEH MADE FUN OF OUR SYLHETI LANGUAGE? :mad:

...WHICH REGION OF BD ARE YOU FROM? YOU DON'T SOUND LIKE A FELLOW SYLHETI.

PS...I CHANGED UR HOME SITE AS I DONT KNOW HOW TO USE THE WIKI SITE VERY WELL. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Habz (talk • contribs).

  • The page in question has been semi-protected to prevent the edit war between the anonymous IPs.
  • If you have a legitimate point backed by citation from proper sources (and NOT from "forums"), feel free to add it to the article. Discussing the point in the talk page also helps.
  • If you have a bickering with a person in real life, you must not bring it to Wikipedia.
  • I really don't care what has been said by anyone, outside the scope of Wikipedia. Thank you.
  • What region I'm from? Does it matter? Should it matter? Feel free to be guessing about that. Bangladesh is a very small country, and petty regionalism is ridiculous in that context.
  • Writing in all CAPS is considered shouting.
  • Thank you. --Ragib 01:18, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
Habz, I am really sorry but I do think Ragib is kind of right you know. You are new here so you might have time adjusting I guess but remember this- first you are a Bangladeshi, then Sylheti, Dhakaiya etc. You know what, I am really not a "real Dhakaiya". My home village is another district. I used this username because my friends do not agree with my ideas and I used this name as a kind of rebellion against them, to show that I have been born and brought uo in this city, Dhaka is my home, Dhaka is my life, Every inch and corner of Bangladesh runs through my blood. Being Sylheti, Dhakaiya or Chatgaiya really doesn't matter. It is being Bangladeshi that does. (Ahnaf 11:42, 2 September 2006 (UTC)). Sorry Ragib, I am posting a private message in your talk page. May be you would like to delete it about a week later.

[edit] Photos

Have uploaded to nice photos to Dhaka article. Had to work very hard with a friend to make him give permission for any kind of use. May be you could upload them to the commons and use them in Bangla Wikipedia. (Ahnaf 11:34, 2 September 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Thanks for the comments on Habib

Hi... Thanks for the comments on the Habib discussion page. Actually I had already fixed it before I wrote that comment in the discussion page. I am going to go through and revamp the entire Bangla music section. When I see how much you've done and continue to do I feel a lot of respect. Almost every page has some relating to Bangla and Bengalis has some of your contributions.

I was hoping to get a lot more done so far (including writing part-time for Bangla) but my day job which pays the bills takes too much of my time (even during this long weekend)... and of course there is college football. Take care. --Antorjal 20:34, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

I am so sorry I am still not able to participate in Bangla yet... I am coming up for my thesis defence soon from Ohio State... noticed you were at another Big-10 school... UIUC (though not a big football school like OSU prolly better in basketball). I'm working on unicode right now but need to get my hands set faster. Also trying to get as many articles edited this Labor Day Weekend as possible. Take care and rock on.--Anirban 21:10, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion sorting

Hi Ragib, Is there a Bangladesh deletion sorting subproject like WP:DSI. I come across some Bangladeshi afd and prods while patrolling for Indian ones sometimes. I can add those to the subproject if you can point me there -- Lost(talk) 07:49, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Oh well... If there are so few of you, then I can just use your talk page to put up the articles. They will probably get more attention here than if I create a separate page. Hope you dont mind. -- Lost(talk) 07:59, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
Sure, create a thread here and add. Thanks. --Ragib 08:00, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vanity

Is this page vanity or not: Mikhail Lebedev --GoOdCoNtEnT 08:08, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vande Mataram

Edit war brewing. Some users think that the Hindi script should not be kept there. I'm reinstating the Hindi script, because whether those users like it or not, Hindi is the most used language in India, and also because Bankim Chaterji's name is written in Hindi on wiki. I really don't see the logic in only having the Bengali version when the majority of Indian users read Devanagari. Bakaman Bakatalk 15:53, 3 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Maurya Empire

Hello Ragib,

There is an edit war brewing on the Maurya Empire page. Specifically, a user insists on citing a discredited source in order to develop his theory that the Bindusara and Ashoka had greek blood in them--which even he admits is baseless or far-fetched in the least. Moreover, this base is then used on that user's much contributed Indo-Greek page to establish that the indo-greeks invaded india for noble reasons such as to protect buddhism and to lay dynastic claim to the mauryan empire--also discredited.

I tried to discuss with that author on the talk page and history as to why it's discredited. Accordingly, I even noted that these assertions are not rooted in fact, and the user still attempted to justify them. Moreover, even though this is a case of sneaky vandalism, and theh 3RR rule does not apply, I desisted from deleting in order to avoid an edit war. Content is being disputed here.

Nevertheless, that user sent a thug named Aldux to use charged language to intimidate me. This Aldux has been guilty in the past of being uncivil almost to the point of violating Wikipedia community behavior. In any event, I figured it would be best to appeal to a moderator to resolve the dispute appropriately. My concern is that just like the british colonial historians harmed South Asian history by crediting every ancient accomplishment to the greeks and others, this user is using british colonial historians (who insist that Alexander conquered to unify mankind and who used opinion and not fact as demonstrated in the citation) to appropriate the mauryan legacy for his own purposes. My only concern is the veracity of history and not to drive opinion for a political purpose. Said user is using opinion to construct a theory with a political purpose, claiming that an extremist opinion is mainstream. I only seek the truth. We require your assistance on the page.

Regards,

Devanampriya

Hmmm... Devanampriya, never heard of WP:CIV and WP:NPA? I'm not sure calling me "thug" respects these policies... And BTW, if I'm such a source of concern for the community, why did it nominate me admin just last July, with hardly any opposition? And a last thing; PHG didn't call me, simply his user page is on my watchlist. (Sorry for awnsering here, Ragib)--Aldux 20:23, 3 September 2006 (UTC)


(Sorry for responding here, Ragib)
Well, Aldux, perhaps you should also reread those yourself since you haven't really been behaving in accordance with those rules. Your usage of charged language i.e. "you will pay the consequences...!". and attempts at intimidation have been noted by myself and other contributors. As for why the community nominated you as an admin, perhaps a referral of your recent behavior and language might be of interest to them And lastly, PHG's request for help is on your discussion page, so please don't be dishonest. I believe wikipedia would have some rules on lying too.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Devanampriya (talk • contribs).

[edit] Thanks

Sorry, for the late reply. Thanks for your recommendations.--Iball 05:16, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Translations

The initial ambition to create articles automatically has so far not worked out. However, articles have been created across wikis in various languages based on the translations. See for example [17], [18], [19], etc. The problem right now for Bangla is that Bengali script doesn't work on my computer at the moment. --Soman 08:26, 4 September 2006 (UTC) Could you suggest a good bangla unicode font to download? --Soman 08:30, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion Sorting - Bangladesh

A page does indeed exist for deletion sorting of Bangladesh related articles. I have added a prod there. All Bangladeshi editors may check the page periodically for updates. Regards -- Lost(talk) 11:24, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Signpost

Please have a article ready by October 23. See my full response at User talk:Treebark/Table. ForestH2 t/c 13:07, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dhaka medical college and hospital

hi ragib!

 hw r u?hope fine.firstly i want to thanx u for great information that forign students can apply in med colg in dhaka.please tell me how Pakistani students can take admission in Dhaka medical colg.i am a student of fsc(pre medical) equlent to intermediate.i want to take admission in Dhaka medical colg.
         pllzzz reply soon and thanks once again
                          Andeela Riaz

[edit] Dhaka- Featured Article ?

Hi Ragib, its me (Ahnaf 16:30, 4 September 2006 (UTC)), isn't it high time Dhaka was made a featured article? Its good no doubt about that, there is a balance between the good and the bad. Just asking for your opinion, shouldn' we propose it as a featured article? There are quite a few on India but..... we still have a LONG way to go and I think we can go that long way.

[edit] link to Persian

When you want to link to the article about something Persian, please do not link to Persian, as that is a disambiguation page (which nothing should be linked to). Instead link to the one of the options found on that page such as Persian people, Persian language, or Iran, by writing out [[Persian language|Persian]] or [[Iran|Persian]]. Regards, -- Jeff3000 21:28, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

This on [20], I've already fixed it, but I'm just commenting regarding new edits. There is a lot of work being done in disambiguation -- Jeff3000 21:33, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ziaur Rahman and Dhaka

Hi Ragib - if/when you have time, please do a thorough examination of Ziaur Rahman - I'm in the final stages of prepping it for FAC. Also, I've begun an FA drive for Dhaka - please check my revision. Rama's arrow 13:34, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

The only information I could find on Zia's role in the liberation war was from Banglapedia, where he was mentioned as commander of the Z-Force and the Chittagong zone. Where and what do you think I should look for in researching this aspect? Rama's arrow 15:11, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re Bangla unicode

Thanks for the edit on Tarun Majumdar. :) Do you by any chance where I might find a very easy unicode Bangla converter that I can easily learn and work fast in?--Antorjal 17:16, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Replied in your talk page. --Ragib 17:19, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. I'll look into it. It looks easy enough and since Bangla is my mother-tongue I could probably contribute more in that section. --Antorjal 17:22, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reply to your warning

Ragib, You got it all wrong here. I was the one who asked User: venu not to indulge in PERSONAL ATTACK. During a discussion , User:Venu described me as "not valid" . I asked him not to stop .HOW DOES THAT BECOME a PERSONAL ATTACK.??????? Asking some one to stop personal attack is also a PERSONAL ATTACK to you??????. I understand that i have opposed some of your edits (which basically was pov). But that doesnt mean you have to hold that against me. Since you are a wiki administrator , I expect an impartial behaviour from you. Pls take back your warning . Have a nice day.Bharatveer 06:06, 6 September 2006 (UTC)


I have replied in your talk page. As explained there, I hadn't noticed Parthi's edits, and before even reading this email, I had handed out a warning to him (see the timestamp of the warning Parthi got, UTC 06:06, same time as your message). Anyway, both of you, please don't call each others trolls. Thank you, and have peace ... --Ragib 06:12, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
OK alright. i acknowledge that 'supertroll' comment was not ok. "Upon you Peace "-Bharatveer 06:17, 6 September 2006 (UTC)


Ragib, Bharatveer's initial accusation of my making personal attacks were not well founded as he took a simple typographical error to be an attack on him. I pointed this to him in his talk page. I only removed his comments from my talk page (the first time I have ever done that) is because I got fed up with the unreasonable comments by this user. I clearly see these comments as trolling. My edit history said rm trolling. I never called Bharatveer a troll. If you could advise Bharatveer to show some good faith in other editors, I think it can help him improve his contributions to WP. Cheers - Parthi 07:09, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Potential merge.

I am getting better at wiki (if I DO say so myself...lol...) but still haven't figured out how to merge articles. In any free time, could you possibly merge Tarashankar Bandopadhyaya and Tarashankar Bandopadhyay? Thanks in advance.--Antorjal 07:12, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

Hey sure....we'll do your report October 23th but I'm to lazy to move German out of the way so I haven't done it yet. ForestH2 t/h/c 22:50, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mikhail Lebedev

This year, I was trolling the page Mikhail Lebedev. I meant it to be a bad joke but it is now ruining the scientist's reputation. Can you please delete the slander on the pages (Afd, talk page, and page itself) for me? You can delete the page if it is necessary. Thanks a lot. --GoOdCoNtEnT 22:53, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Looks like this one is ready for a close? -- Samir धर्म 08:58, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Zia pic

Hi - could you please examine the picture of Ziaur Rahman in the "Early life" section ? I think its an early pic of him in the Pakistan Army, but I could be mistaken (in which case I must change the license). Rama's arrow 23:43, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

That's definitely a picture from his later life ... i.e. at least after 1965 or so. (100% sure it is after 1956, therefore not PD). It looks like a post-1971 photo to me, and have seen this photo in various places/posters etc. So, I guess Fair use is the way to go. --Ragib 23:46, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] pictures

first thanks for your MESSAGE.it's always inspiring to get it from you.you talked about pictures.i have some of them.a picture of the firing spot,one of the first shaheed minar and a few others.i'll try to bed them in this weekend so that you can work on those.thanks again for your favourite sentence "let's keep up the good work".Tarif Ezaz Bangladesh 18:31, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] nobel laurates

well in that case, how will Amartya Sen and CV Raman qualify. Raman became a naturalised citizen of States in 1953. You would also like to check the list as there are many names which are listed in multiple countries.nids(♂) 21:23, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Chandrashekhar is listed in both India and USA.nids(♂) 21:25, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
For once in my life, i was actually correct.--nids(♂) 22:42, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Help needed. please delete [21] and [22], whenever you get time.nids(♂) 12:27, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

thanks for the deletions.nids(♂) 17:00, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Please check out Your initial reply on my talk page. He is a resident of India. I dont know about the nationality of Naipaul either but he is listed in UK too.nids(♂) 15:52, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Can i find the source which says that Naipaul is British Citizen. And I wonder that If Dalai Lama is not an Indian citizen, than what is his nationality/citizenship. A non-existant country. Also remember the speech at the time when he recieved the prize. It was in part a tribute to mahatma gandhi.nids(♂) 15:59, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
The cited source does not make it clear if he owns a citizenship of the country. And moreover, the initial reply that you posted on my talk page clearly mentions about the residency part. So what if there are no precedents.nids(♂) 16:11, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
And i guess i will definitely find some precedents in US section. BTW, What are your views on Naipaul if he gets a dual citizenship (i.e. for India too).nids(♂) 16:14, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
I will definitely try to figure out the precedents from some of the sumptuous contries section. Anyways, what are your views on Some laureates are listed under more than one country: for instance, if their country of birth and/or nationality differs from their country of residence. (i.e. if i want to pioneer).Thanks anyways.nids(♂) 16:30, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AfD

Looked like it was ready to close, so I did so instead. -- Samir धर्म 08:27, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notability

If you have written half a dozen books and those have sold well and are read by thousands of doctors, you deserve an artile. On the other hand, if you have just written a thesis, that is hardly seen by 10 people and read by only two (the person who types and the person who proof-reads) that may not be notable

The question was whether the AUTHOR was notable or not and not whether the RESEARCHER was notable or not. He may not have been notable as a researcher (as of now) but he is definitely a notable author. If you have considered the AFD only in relation to a researcher and not as a author, he may not be notable. What is wrong in considering the books for notability Doctor BrunoTalk 11:56, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rajshahi

Ragib bhai, would you please have a look on Rajshahi and provide me your valuable comment? Thanks in advance. Auyon15:50, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Well I am just adding the truth.

Please tell me how pakistan is NOT a dictatorship, before you accuse me of vandalizing. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nuklep1 (talk • contribs).

Well, this edit is simply an act of vandalism to a Featured article. --Ragib 22:19, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jana Gana Mana and Vande Mataram

Tempers are flaring a bit on the first and the second is moving along. Why cant people be happy with both Hindi and Bengali scripts? Its a good compromise. I do agree that the Hindi transliteration is not needed on the Jana Gana Mana, so I will support you on the talk page.Bakaman Bakatalk 01:37, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] This is the moment

Rama's Arrow has done a WONDERFUL edit to Dhaka. Its time it is nominated to be a featured article. The article is really good. By the way, how do I add it to my watchlist. My next objective is to have at least a stub on every city in cities in Bangladesh. (Ahnaf 11:44, 10 September 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Sorry - Having some day off

Dear Ragib Bhai,

I am sorry I am off for a while (Since the last on month!). Just got a new job and having too much busy time in it (Radio Network Planning Engineer in a Cellular Network Vendor). Hope to join you again soon. (Please excuse me for sending a personal message here). Sayutee 13:34, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Weat Bengal FAC

Just curious. Do not know about Bhawaiya, but Gombhira is quite popular in Malda district. And is Bhatiali only present in present day Bangladesh? I copy-pasted many stuffs from Bangladesh as a start and was improving the article (it needs quite a lot) when another user nominated it for FAC! Just like Gopal Bhar stories (popular in WB as well as Bangladesh), is not Maimansingha Gitika known in WB? What is its status in Bangladesh? In WB, yes, the mass is ignorant about it, but a sizable number of people with links to East Bengal (like me) knows about it, and my earlier generation peobably adores the gitika even more. Siraj ud-Daulah is an unpardonable ommission :( Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 18:24, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Bengal Renaissance is there in History. Brahmo samaj - may be considered. Yeah, now I get your point on Gitika.Basically I hardly have time to work on the article now. Will look into it later. Rama has helped a lot. One ommission in culture is Chow nach from Purulia. Basically, the article is not comprehensive yet :(--Dwaipayan (talk) 18:45, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Have made some changes. Please have a look. Size is around 45 kb now. Major concern still remains culture. Hope will manage to get some time and improve the section :( --Dwaipayan (talk) 09:01, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Criticism of Sheikh Mujib

Could you please explain why there seem to be pov comments in the criticism article on Sheikh Mujib? pov comments like rabble rouser and the fact that international community did not recognise Bangladesh upon independanmce when in fact most of the Commie world and europe did (only some Arab nations did not). Also the links go onto questa links which do not contain any info. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.74.41.206 (talk • contribs).

[edit] Thanks!

Thanks for the tip-off. When you have time, please do undertake a major review of Dhaka along with Ziaur Rahman. I hope to get both to FAC this week or latest in 7 days. Rama's arrow 23:30, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] help requested

Hi Ragib - I request your attention here [23]. This problem has been driving me crazy and I think you may be able to help me. Rama's arrow 15:28, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Hey thanks! You're right on both counts - I have a Google toolbar and a web accelerator. Rama's arrow 16:40, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

..for the vandal revert. I didn't get around to reblocking mahawiki as I wasn't around at that time, but it seems as though he is rather upset...Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 06:50, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Biography and "potential" libel

I suppose an Indian knows better which websites are more reliable. Did you even care to read the nespaper articles? And in future, NAME the article you are referring to. ♔BADMIN♛ (आओ✍) 07:58, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Ragib. there is NO negative material without reliable proof in Robert Vadra article. IF you feel otherwise, then NAME THEM otherwise I would suggest you to revert your edit to my last revision. ♔BADMIN♛ (आओ✍) 08:03, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Is living a plush bungalow a "negative opinion" and do you want me to provide a copy of his ration card? GET SERIOUS, Ragib! It's only the Asian wikipedians who are making hullaballo over "citation needed". Robert Vadra owns more houses in Delhi than their are gigabytes in your hard-disk.♔BADMIN♛ (आओ✍) 08:10, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Keep your "bottom line" to yourself. If you had any problem with that sentence then you should have removed ONLY that sentence. I never knew that the Wikipedia is Congress-sponsored. ♔BADMIN♛ (आओ✍) 08:21, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
What? What? What? What was so "uncivilised" in my lines? Merely quoting (and never perusing) one of the gazillion Wikipedia policies won't back your claims. I asked you to revert to my last revision and remove the sentence about residence. Do you mind doing that? ♔BADMIN♛ (आओ✍) 08:27, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

"See previous comment for the related diff"? Sorry, didn't get you. I'm not that smart. ♔BADMIN♛ (आओ✍) 08:39, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

3R? I suppose I didn't revert. I removed the words what you may call "inflammatory" and improved the article rather than reverting it. Oh yes, thanks for the warning but please make sure if it was a revert. ♔BADMIN♛ (आओ✍) 08:47, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
You mean that I am not empowered to edit my own words? ♔BADMIN♛ (आओ✍) 08:52, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Ragib, I have no intention to put baseless information in an encyclopedia but I had read in the Times of India that mosquitoes had been found in the Lutyens' bungalow of Vadra. I searched for the string robert vadra mosquito and could only find a link that proves that he lives in a VIP area of Delhi.[24] I think it is very cruel or prejudiced of you to accuse me of putting libel. ♔BADMIN♛ (आओ✍) 09:08, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

I have explained my position and you too know that the sentence has been removed. Did I not tell you that I HAVE READ in the TOI but don't have a copy of the newspaper. I wouldn't have been trying to convince you had I had the link. ♔BADMIN♛ (आओ✍) 09:13, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] delete page

the same user created this page again. Shall i warn him for that? Please delete this page, again. Thanks.nids(♂) 20:17, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Done, As per your suggestions.nids(♂) 20:24, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A little time

I'm busy fighting off deletionists on CfD's Category:hindu mathematicians. Users accused me of "Being communal", "perpetrating massacre" and being an "RSS revisionist". It may take me a while.Bakaman Bakatalk 01:45, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Don't let the accusations stick to you. Ever seen a lotas leaf? It's like teflon ... not a drop of water sticks to it. I've been called Pro-Indian/Anti-Indian, Pro-Pakistani/Anti-Pakistani, Anti-Arakani/Rohingya, etc. etc. (at one time you found me "in cahoots" with HW, right?, he also found similar things about me :) ). Just let those tags slide off you. Also, a look at this nice guide will help calm you down.
Incidentally, I'm doing some research on human interactions in Wikipedia ... the conflicts and resolutions would definitely make an interesting part of that. :) --Ragib 04:49, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sambad Prabhakar

Thanks for the advice. I am really surprised at your alertness. I have transferred material from Sangbad Prabhakar to Sambad Prabhakar. Nothing would be lost in deletion. -- P.K.Niyogi 03:55, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I made the former a redirect to the latter. --Ragib 04:44, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Meningless references

The citation has nothing to do with Students Islamic Organization of INDIA. Maybe you dont know how and when to use references. If you do, perhaps you could tell me what Students Islamic Organization of INDIA has to do with "The Muslim World After 9/11. By Angel M Rabasa, Cheryl Benard, Peter Chalk, C Christine Fair, Theodore Karasik, Rollie Lal, Ian Lasser, Ian O Lesser, David E Thaler, Rand Corporation, ISBN 0833037129. Published January 2005." While you are at it, could you also tell me why a BANGLADESHI like you should be interested in Students Islamic Organization of INDIA? Thanks. -Dining Philosopher

Sorry I posted the above message at the top of the page by mistake. Kindly get rid of it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dining philosopher (talk • contribs).

Censorship of criticism!!!! As Expected. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dining philosopher (talk • contribs).

Sorry to see you blocked for your incivil behavior. When you emerge from your block, please feel free to ask me for any help regarding how to edit productively, and avoid conflicts with other users. Thanks. --Ragib 04:44, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Congrats. You are very powerful. Being a PhD student you should know that its okay to use material from other sources as long as you cite the source. Being a PhD student you should also know what, when, how and where to cite. Your definition of vandalism seems to be "Anybody who does not agree with me or obey me is a Vandal." Also, I find your interest in Students Islamic Organization of India to be fascinating. As an Indian, I wonder how many Pakistanis are interested in SIO. I am surprised to learn from your website that you attend Urbana-Champaign and have attended BUET. I used to have a lot of respect for these universities. As a grad student, I am also surprised to learn that you are actually on the program committee of a conference. But then again, I really am not. I have been in grad school long enough to know that people like you are perfect for academia. You will do well. Goodbye. Lets hope our paths dont cross again. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dining philosopher (talk • contribs).

Interesting. You might look into Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Students Islamic Organisation of India to see how on earth I stumbled upon this article. You might also see that I have removed all unreferenced information to improve it and prevent its deletion. But anyway, I wish you all the best. Thanks --Ragib 23:48, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How did you know that I'm in distress?

Ragib, was it not YOU who got me banned by that 3R rule? The rule is used to dissuade users from edit warring. I suppose you did not read the rule properly. The use of the clause "potentially libelous and unreferenced material" in your complaint was WRONG. The law says that if a user breaks the 3RR for removing such material then it does not apply to him. Furthermore, if my edits were unlawful, then why no revert had been made at the time of my ban?

Any way, how did you know that I needed help this time? ♔BADMIN♛ (आओ✍) 08:33, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Ha ha, did I claim that I was REMOVING it? NO! My point is that your adding that clause was irrelevant. I know that 3RR DID apply to me but my additions to that page were NOT unreferenced at the end. 3RR did NOT serve its real purpose. It was imposed on me only for the law's sake. I'm not a vandal and do not add rubbish to any article. And by the by, why would you watch the talkpage of a peanut like me? ♔BADMIN♛ (आओ✍) 08:41, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Is it not true that you got me banned ONLY because you were offended by my language? Did you ever bother to check who has improved that Robert Vadra article? My edits were in compliance with Wikipedia:Ignore_all_rules and WP:SNOW. ♔BADMIN♛ (आओ✍) 08:51, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

I thought that the SNOW law is state that the WP is not a bureaucracy so rules that are counterproductive in a case may be overruled but the meaning of SNOW tells me that I misinterpreted. ♔BADMIN♛ (आओ✍) 09:11, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] No copyvio!

What exactly do you do on the Wikipedia? All you did today is THIS? And who told you that the article is copyrighted and cannot be produced elsewhere? Please do not dissuade other users if you yourself cannot contribute a word to this encyclopedia. Why have you targeted me? ♔BADMIN♛ (आओ✍) 20:34, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

"Being continuously incivil, violating copyright, adding unreferenced libel will only get you blocked for longer periods."

* I did not get the meaning of the word "incivil".

  • Where did I add unreferenced libel?
  • Please check the blocking policy to see if my edits calls for a ban.
  • If a "material found on the web" "cut-pastes" [sic] the material from an Indian newspaper which allows its articles and editorials to be freely published then I will continue "cut-paste" [sic].
  • Your present edits do count. Is it not true that you have targeted me? Should I assume that you're being a racist? ♔BADMIN♛ (आओ✍) 20:48, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re districts in Bangla wikipedia

I'll be gone for most of the weekend and watching football for the remainder but I'll put in some time next week helping out. I have to warn you that so far I am high on enthusiasm and slow on speed in Bangla... but definitely I'll do whatever I can. Thanks for the heads-up. Take care. --Antorjal 00:47, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Replied re Matir Moina on my talk page. --Antorjal 02:55, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
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