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Contents 1 Armenian Archieves 2 DYK 3 Re: White Genocide 4 Happy New Year! 5 Link 6 Armenian monasteries 7 user:nshan13 8 Reply 9 Hrant Dink 10 Image:Vakifli church-DCP 8791 25p.jpg 11 Tahn 12 Image:Sakharov_statue-dcp0660.jpg listed for deletion

[edit] Armenian Archieves

Thank you very much. I don't have much knowledge on the issue and I am researching about it. Can you please include a similar comment to the discussion page of AG so that the users will not get mislead by my comment. Also, can you provide me a weblink of the archieves if one exists. I have given turkish archieves link on the discussion page. Thank youCaglarkoca 12:25, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On December 17, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Goshavank, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Blnguyen (bananabucket) 00:46, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: White Genocide

Hey Raffi, well the thing is, in the Armenian History textbook we studied from in my high school, we did use Jermag chart but it was equally called "Sbidag" chart (I typed Spitak since it is how it would be pronounced in the RA). Although it is not widely used among Westnern Armenian everyday conversations (ex: jermag eh tsooynuh instead of sbidag eh tsooynuh), you can find sbidag in poetry and literature as we had encountered it even though the majority of our textbooks were Western Armenian, just not in everyday conversations (as far as I know). Anyway it is not really important to the matter because either way, we understand the meaning of it. I just wanted to add it cause that's how it was written in my old history book and its a way we learned to describe the assimilation. Hope this clarifies it a little. Fedayee 16:33, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Happy New Year!

Շնորհաւոր նոր տարի եւ Սուրբ Ծնունդ - Fedayee 19:19, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Link

I removed the link again, it shouldn't be list of every forum and web-site out there. Armeniapedia is not a reliable site. I know that you run it, so if you add it again I will report you for self-promotion and along with comments like "I suspect racist in motivation", you can be sure that you will be reported for both vandalism, self-promotion and civility. Thank you and happy new year. Baristarim 05:40, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

However, feel free to expand the main itself with secondary sources. Baristarim 08:07, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Not quite. Please see WP:EL and Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Please avoid adding that link. Also if you are interested, take a look at my note on the article's talk page. Thank you. Baristarim 05:52, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Armenian monasteries

I don't dispute your point, and I apologize for my error. However, I do have a question. Those banners, like many of the others that I have been adding, are there to more or less let the projects know that given articles exist, and that they might be interested in improving them. Also, all such articles are being added to the project's own list of articles, allowing them to keep up with recent changes to them and hopefully more frequently prevent vandalism. It would be beneficial to the pages if some project had a given article under their watch. Given my own remarkably imperfect knowledge of the subject, can you think of which group on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory/Culture/Philosophy and religion#Christianity they might relate to, so that the appropriate banner is added and they are added to the appropriate watchlist? Thank you in advance for your response. Badbilltucker 19:14, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

If there is no such group which you believe qualifies, please let me know. I think we could either create a separate project for the Oriental Orthodox Church (or at least propose one and see how many people respond) or perhaps create one as a work group of the larger Christianity project. Again, my primary interest is in ensuring that the some group is aware of the articles, and I've created enough myself to be able to create another one for these purposes. Badbilltucker 19:42, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] user:nshan13

i am also armenian —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nshan13 (talk • contribs) 23:07, 10 January 2007 (UTC).

Hey Raffi check your mail please this is Nareklm. (Formerly) Artaxiad 15:34, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

I see your point... I suppose when you pile too much pressure on people you can make them targets for such actions even though that might not have been the initial intent. It is also possible that he was also made a scapegoat of some sorts by some people for some other troubles that Turkey was having. Nevertheless, it is a very sad event and an extremely big loss, particularly since he was in a unique position that bridged the Turkish and Armenian communities with the real outlook of a true intellectual. It was also shocking for me to see those photos. Sad world... As for the demonstrations. I think that there has never been a willingness by any Turk to hate, fight or dispute in the first place. There are many Turks out there who are more than willing to reach out you know :) Where did you see him by the way? - Just curious :) Baristarim 01:14, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

It is true, he is quite irreplaceable and that's what makes it such a great loss. After this, it will be even harder because of the atmosphere of fear... Sad.. Interesting story about the conference by the way. C'est la vie Baristarim 02:15, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hrant Dink

I saw your comments to Baristarim and just felt a need to drop a note. I agree that Dink is quite irreplaceable and that's what makes this particular loss so great. I always felt that he was going about things the right way in Turkey for raising awareness on a very tough issue. He was one of us, and understood the particular paranoias, blindnesses, weaknesses as well as the strengths of the society. A very emotional writer as well. Some of his pieces are impossible to read without raising a lump in the throats of anyone with a heart. I refer to "the water finds its cracks" and his 10th January piece about being a dove particularly. --Free smyrnan 01:51, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Vakifli church-DCP 8791 25p.jpg

Thank you very much for uploading an image of Vakıflı. Is it possible to get a version without the watermark? Khoikhoi 01:58, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Ah, ok. Thanks anyways. BTW, what is your source for "Vakıflı is the only village in the world that is completely Armenian in ethnicity outside of the Caucasus"? I could only find sources saying outside Armenia. Khoikhoi 07:01, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I suppose so, but coming to conclusions by ourselves would be considered original research, wouldn't it? What we need are sources that state this. Recently, WP:V and WP:NOR were actually merged into a single policy: WP:ATT. As the intro states:

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a publisher of original thought. The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is whether material is attributable to a reliable published source, not whether it is true. Wikipedia is not the place to publish your opinions, experiences, or arguments.

Khoikhoi 07:31, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, in response to your comment "I can give you references for the existence of Armenian villages in Karabakh and Georgia", this is also from WP:NOR ("Unpublished synthesis of published material"):

Editors often make the mistake of thinking that if A is published by a reliable source, and B is published by a reliable source, then A and B can be joined together in an article in order to advance position C. However, that would be an example of an unpublished synthesis of published material serving to advance a position, and it constitutes original research. "A and B, therefore C" is acceptable only if a reliable source has published this argument in relation to the topic of the article.

Also, I think you misinterpreted the quote you gave me. It's not saying "some things don't attribution". This bit of information especially needs it because it is challenged. I will talk to SlimVirgin, the original author of the policy, to get some clarification. Khoikhoi 10:41, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi Khoikhoi, the sentence "Vakıflı is the only village in the world that is completely Armenian in ethnicity outside of the Caucasus" would definitely need a reliable source. For an editor to add this based on his own belief would count as original research. Cheers, SlimVirgin ^(talk) 18:31, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. Jayjg ^(talk) 00:28, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tahn

Hi, if you say it's generally non-carbonated, then it's ok... Chapultepec 18:40, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Sakharov_statue-dcp0660.jpg listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:Sakharov_statue-dcp0660.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Yonatan (contribs/talk) 22:28, 5 March 2007 (UTC)