Talk:Radio Telefís Éireann
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[edit] Name
According to RTÉ's website, its name is Radio Telifís Éireann, not Radió Telifís Éireann. I checked with someone I know in there and they said the same. It is perfectly possible that in correct gaelic it should be radió. However what is correct gaelic isn't always the version used. (As with the hideous Lána Bus nonsense!) Whatever about the correct language, the correct name has no fada on the 'o'. FearÉIREANN 19:22 5 Jun 2003 (UTC)
The "correct Gaelic" is, in any case, neither radio nor radió, but raidió. RTÉ, though does indeed stand for Radio Telefís Éireann. -- 81.132.170.159 23:46, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Shouldn't it be Telefís? Google prefers that 6,440 to 279. --Wik 21:20, Sep 8, 2003 (UTC)
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- I moved it now. Even searching only on rte.ie it is Telefís (94 to 2). --Wik 05:56, Nov 7, 2003 (UTC)
Recently re-raised at Talk:Irish words used in the English language. Djegan 00:24, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Announcements
What exactly does: "Seo Radio 2RN Baile Atha Cliath ag tastail" translate to (and how do you pronounce it)? Meanwhile, here are some other notable bits from RTE: "Radio Telefis Eireann, RTE anseo agaibh" (last bit pronounced "unshow agive", according to a pronounciation guide I'm reading now): "RTE, here at you" (how RTE opened its TV service in the B&W days) "Comhartha na Cheithre Bhosca", the Irish name for the 4 Boxes Logo: the guide convinces me that it reads "kowarha na khei-re wosca". No, I don't live in Ireland (never been there either). A visitor, 4:40pm (GMT +7) Oct 3, 2003
- You're close alright. I'd pronounce "Radio Telefis Eireann, RTE anseo agaibh" as "raadio telifeesh air-an RTE anshoh agwiß" (where "ß" is the Castillian b/v sound, a voiced bilabial fricative) and "Comhartha na Cheithre Bhosca" as "koßawrha na kheh-re ßoska". --Kgaughan 00:10, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Programming template
So is anyone going to do a write up on Frank Hall and his Pictorial Weekly? Surely that programme deserves a mention.
So does The Late Late Show --Occono 15:21, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
- Hall's Pictorial Weekly, The Late Late Show. --Kiand 16:39, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
Oh right. Didn't see those in the article. Well what about The Panel, The Blizzard Of Odd? It should be noted Podge And Rodge's Nightmare at Bedtime was on the Paramount Comedy Channel a while ago. Oh, and there is a Dublin-Focused "City Channel" on Sky now.
- Done, not done, Podge and Rodge, and done. :) --Kiand 14:25, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
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- Oh, and City Channel is no NTL not Sky. Channel 6 (Ireland) is going to be on Sky. --Kiand 14:26, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
You don't mention Hall's Pictorial Weekly or The Panel IN the article though. There should be a more comphrensive section on the history of the programming. And shouldn't this template be in the article?
| Radio Telefís Éireann original programmes | ||
| Comedy & Drama shows: The Blizzard of Odd | Bull Island | Hall's Pictorial Weekly | The Irish R.M. | The Panel | The Podge and Rodge Show | A Scare at Bedtime | Strumpet City | ||
| News & Current Affairs: Discovery | Nine O'Clock News | One O'Clock News | Prime Time | Questions and Answers | Reeling In The Years | 7 Days | Six One News | ||
| Chat shows: Kenny Live | The Late Late Show | The Live Mike | Tubridy Tonight | Seoige and O'Shea | ||
| Soap operas: Bracken | Fair City | Glenroe | The Riordans | Tolka Row | ||
| Talent Contests: Celebrity Jigs 'n' Reels | Charity You're A Star | You're A Star | ||
| Irish language: Buntús Cainte | Trom agus Éadrom | ||
| Children's: Bosco | The Den | The Morbegs | Wanderly Wagon | ||
| Music: The Last Broadcast | ||
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See also: List of programmes broadcast by RTÉ |
--Occono 14:24, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Eircom sponsorship
The source for the actual upholding of complaints about this issue: (Irish Times - eircom.net)
Another lovely addition to the Eircom - Comreg saga.
zoney ♣ talk 14:25, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Recent edits
Is it just me or this article look like its been re-written by someone from RTÉ recently - I don't think we should be using the "IBD" term for example - it is offical RTÉ terminology, but its used by no one except RTÉ employees. The entire article reads like a press release in parts now. I notice the editor also airbrushed RTÉ Radio Cork out of existance - maybe RTÉ doesn't like to admit that it has ever closed a station. --Rdd 22:03, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
- No your right, it looks as if some anon did a major rewrite a couple of weeks ago, the only thing i would touch was in infobox, as i didnt want to mess with the rest of it, defering it to somone who is more knowledgabel. Left a not on the board, but nothing seems to have been done prior to yur edits. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 23:03, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Licence Fee
I removed the section about the licence fee being an unnesscary tax, on the idea that i wasnt to comfortable with the wording of the addation and the accompaing website. To me it seemed little less then rant to set up for the website which is marked as a rant. Becides the website being a rant, it has basically no source background and in the introduction their is at least one bit of info that is incorrect, the CBC in Canada does not charge a fee, it nothing short of a opinion, RTE bashing. Here is the diff on the addation [1], any thoughts? --Boothy443 | trácht ar 03:49, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
- Looked like a rant to me, was going to revert it if I still felt so when sober in the morning. Then again, I expect we'll eventually see anti licence-fee rants on all licence fee funded national broadcasters pages, the BBC page is full of them... --Kiand 03:54, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
- Agree. ant_ie 07:35, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
Was in fact a rant (as stated), but given it's an external link, why not leave it in to reflect lack of dialog on this important issue? You may not agree with the opinion but it is nonetheless valid and well researched: Direct funding to CBC amounts to a licencing fee, since mostly all households own a TV in Canada as in Ireland. I will reinsert the link. - Graham
- Its a rant which has no context to the rest of the article. You add it again and its going to get removed again, simple as that. --Kiand 19:15, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
No context to the article? If THIS isn't a place to bring up this issue, where can one do so? What IS the proper forum if not here? Remove it again and I'll add it again, simple as that.
- An encyclopedia article about an organisation is not the place to bitch about their employees pay packets, etc. Your own webspace is, and thats where you have it, but linking to it from here is irrelevant, spammy and pointless. The "correct forum" for it is somewhere else, its not here. --Kiand 19:19, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
Agreed: I'll leave it out of the body of the article. But the whole point of the external link is to get people who are interested it 'related' ideas onto other pages appropriate to that viewpoint. You're deleting the link because you don't like the idea and because you want to control content, not because it contradicts the Wikipedian philosophy.
- No, external links are to extend on the data within the article, not bring up "related topics" or rants about the topic.
- I also notice you've missed the biggest problem with RTÉ these days in your rant, namely that theres no free way to get them in digital, which is a disgrace for a public service broadcaster. You seem to be latching on to overly populist issues where its easy to shove an opinion on to someone, such as Kenny's pay. --Kiand 19:28, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
- Also, theres another BIG problem. The television licence isn't RTÉ's. Its the states. The majority goes to RTÉ, but thats irrelevant. The link has no place in this article, maybe the article on Television licence might have -some- justification for it, but not here. --Kiand 19:31, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
Look, if this thing is so strict as to shoot down a single link to an opinion article as reasonable as the one I propose, it's frankly useless.
- It has no place in this article. As I said, go try your luck on Television licence. RTÉ don't levy the licence fee, the state do. RTÉ are also not the sole benefactors - TG4 are a seperate statutory corporation in law, and a certain proportion of licence fee funds are available for commercial broadcasters to show public service programming. Oh, and An Post take a cut. Hence this -is not- an article that that page is relevant to be placed on. --Kiand 19:49, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
Look, Cian, the fact that the State levy the fee is semantics. In the minds of 99% of the people on this island, the TV licence is inextricably linked to the RTE service and you know it. Wikipedia should reflect the minds of 99% of people on this island: The first place an Irish person would go to look for info on the TV licence is "RTE" The main article states that RTE is a public service broadcaster and this is factually incorrect: It's a commercial broadcaster that has managed to hold on to an unnecessary subsidy because the insiders (like you I guess) keep stifling the debate.
- Please read Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. Your link is not for this article. ant_ie 20:20, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
- "insiders (like you" ?? I have nothing to do with RTÉ. And theres not been much to any debate to "stifle", because the majority of people here realise that the licence fee is not something that goes to RTÉ, despite what you may think. I barely watch the damn stations they provide, in fact of all the licence fee funded services, I watch more (imported) programming on TG4 than on any of the other channels. And that I only get without paying a third-party through relatively grainy UHF analogue, due to the atrocious transmission network this country has.
- Your link does not maintain a neutral point of view, as ant_ie points out; and manages to whitewash over a number of issues. It may, may have a place in the television licence article but it has none here. Trying to claim that its being removed for any other reason is just pure desperation. --Kiand 20:29, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Relationship with TG4
Just something you wrote about tg4 (TnaG) is incorrect.
TnaG is an Irish language TV channel owned by the state (oireachtas). RTÉ, as the public service broadcaster, is obliged to provide tg4 with 1 hour of programming per day and a news service. It is based is Baile na hAbhann, Co Galway, and is NOT a part of RTÉ.
Obviously, tg4 don't produce mant more programmes than they receive from RTE. Most of the programmes shown during the kids' show are American; sometimnes dubbed in Irish but usually kept in English.
-Unsigned comment by 213.202.148.40 at 15:51 31 MAY 2006 on article page
TG4 will be transformed into an independent statutory body from the beginning of April in 2007 after Noel Dempsey announced it on 17 August 2006. [2]
- Comment by donal.hunt at 18:38 27 AUG 2006 on article page
[edit] TV3
What is RTÉ'S relationship with TV3? I don't think it owns it, but i'm not 100% sure. codu (t/c) 12:26, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Jimmy O'Dea
Some long time ago, maybe in the 70's, RTÉ made a short (maybe black and white) series of 15-minute sketches with Jimmy O'Dea and David Kelly as two railway employees in an old-fashioned junction box (sorry, I don't remember the name of the series--Help, Please). The sketches were masterpieces of Dublin humour; Kelly always addressed O'Dea as "Mister O," and each sketch ended with the duo making tea!
RTE, to its credit, has brought out DVD's of Hall's Pictorial Weekly and Wanderly Wagon. However, Jimmy O'Dea's contribution to Irish comedy is part of Ireland's--in particular, Dublin's-- cultural heritage. He was idolized by the people of Dublin, and may well have been Ireland's greatest, or at least best-loved, 20th century comedian. If anyone can remember more about the series, or persuade RTE to bring out DVD's, they will be doing a great service to that cultural heritage.--PeadarMaguidhir 11:54, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
