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Ok I think this entry needs to separate into "Raccoon City in Resident Evils 0,2, and 3" and "Raccoon City in Resident Evil: Apocalypse.

I agree. The article seems to favor the films way too much, even though the RE series is a video game first and a movie second. There's some info in the Biohazard Archives, which I could translate and put here. Jonny2x4 17:00, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Spencer Mansion Versus Looking Glass House 2 Nuke picture and caption 3 Possible State Location 4 The end of Raccoon City 5 Real prototype 6 Assasination? 7 Clean up

[edit] Spencer Mansion Versus Looking Glass House

The Spencer Mansion in the Resident Evil games and the mansion in the Resident Evil Movie are two different places. The Spencer Mansion is an old structure from the late sixtie or early seventies. It is filled with many old fashioned traps and secrets designed by Umbrella leaders from that era. It is a research and testing lab. The Mansion is Resident Evil the Movie is the Looking Glass House. That name is from the script is never uttered in the movie, but the main character, Alice, goes down a "rabbit hole" on the mansions grounds and confronts the "red queen." Paul WS Anderson knows this is not the Spencer Mansion. The LGH is large and modern, in good repair, and serves as an enterance to the hive under raccoon. In Resident Evil Apocalypse, we meet a Jill Valentine who has already encountered zombies before the outbreak. Although they do not go into it, it is highly probable that the LGH was still in operatation after the Spencer incident and Jill Valentine's disgrace.

The weapon used on Raccoon City is a regular fission bomb, not a neutron bomb. A neutron bomb kills living things with radiation but leaves buildings intact. In Resident Evil Nemesis and Resident evil Apocalypse we see the bomb causing a blast, fireball, and mushroom cloud.

Ahh, but most of the city in RE: Apocalypse was left intact, albeit with some scarring, thus making the bomb a neutron missile. G. Freeman- July 2nd, 2006 10:01 ET

[edit] Nuke picture and caption

The picture and caption are spoilers, and I think they should be removed, or put into a spoiler part of the article.

I took the liberty of replacing the "Blast.jpg" with a shot of Raccoon City from RE3, since it's more appropiate for this article than something from the films. Jonny2x4 17:00, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Possible State Location

A Game Informer issue in 2004 (can't remember the month, sorry) featured a question in their monthly "Gamer IQ" quiz which said that Raccoon City was located in Colorado. I'm not sure where they got that from. 67.165.87.40 20:46, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Yeah Ive always remembered that. Mainly since I have no liking of Colorado. --Psi edit

The fact that its location has always been referred to as the "mid-west" brings to mind Ohio, Illinois, etc. I'm not entirely sure why Colorado, West Virginia, and the like are continuously brought into the equation. --AWF

In the 2nd movie, during the zooming out scene at the end, it appeared the city is right around Cincinnati or Indianapolis. -Ulairix

Sounds like original research, or, more likely Game Informer just picked a spot where they think Raccoon City most likely is. Colorodo has never been confirmed by Capcom as the actual location. I'm removing the sentence "It is said to be located somewhere in northern Colorado." for now as it's very misleading and may lead some to take it as a fact when in actuality its no truer than the dozen other possible locations people have come up with. Secondly, that rumour isn't even referenced. If anyone insists on keeping it please change the sentence to "It is rumored to be located somewhere in northern Colorado." or something to that effect for a little more clarity and reference it.

Also, I just wanted to point out that Raccoon City is by no means a metropolis and to call it that is incorrect. "Metropolis" is a very specific term meaning a major city usually with a population of over a million; Los Angeles for example. Raccoon City has 100,000+ people, which is actually pretty small as far as cities go and definitly does not qualify as metropolis. Raccoon may have been a metropolis in the non-canon films, but in the video game it's usually portrayed as a "small mid-western city". I'm not going to edit that out for now until some more users respond. --Life is like a box of chocolates 10:54, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

I have changed "metropolis to the more generic descriptor of "city". Raccoon City, with its likely population being 100-200,000 persons does not constitute a metropolis. -- D-Katana 13:51, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Could someone cite the Cumberland, MA thing? It sounds like original research/fancruft, and I always figured Raccoon was no more based on a real city than was Springfield in The Simpsons. Teflon Don 05:47, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Cumberland Maryland has a general shape and look that resembles Raccoon City. It has a nearby mountain range, has a highway system going through it, and has a generally moderate population.- G.Freeman, July 1st, 2006 10:03 ET.

It's simple, about the possible locations of Raccoon City may be, that is if you are referring to a realistic perspective. I have changed much of the location part, and added images and real reference to this subject. It's not a fact that Game Informer just "picked a place". I am sure they had thought about it and did some reasearch of their own when they had decided to choose Colorado as a possible state that Raccoon City could be in for their game quiz. Colorado is mostly covered by the Rockey Mountains, is considered "mid-western", and is known to have dense and secluded forest evironments. As for the city of Chicago being a possible "Raccoon City", I have taken the liberty of erasing that, because I recall in Resident Evil 2 that Umbrella had a brance based in Chicago. I don't underdstand how Raccoon City could be based off of that city when there is a brance of Umbrella's located there. In exchange for the previous information, I have added real research of more than one town that could almost pass as a real "Raccoon City".

Further more, I would like to point this out: I am having a hard time finding any pictures of the Arklay Mountains from the beginning scenes of Resident Evil 0 and the Remake, or of the painiting of the mountains in Resident Evil 3 to prove that the mountains do in fact look close to the Appalachian Mountains. The only reference I have is to view these facts in the games themselves. This also goes for the second Resident Evil movie's DVD deleted scenes. You can only view those facts on special feature DVD. There are no resouces online to prove this. However, if some are able to find them, I would appreciate it if those people would share their information and resouces. - and I wouldn't mind if people would possibly want to take the liberty of changing my Spelling, English and Grammar on the Raccoon City page. Since I know I am not the best at it. - *.:.`ShadowFox` S.T.A.R.S..:.* 03:10, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Hey.. isn't comparing raccoon city to Centralia a bit off? Silent Hill has the underground fires.. not Raccoon City.. -nalesean

Not really. I realize Centralia does have the underground mine fires yes, and I do understand that Raccoon City doesn't, and was destoryed by the T-virus that infected the fleas and the rats in the sewers. However, both were destoryed by natural disasters, both towns were destoryed very quickly and both of the towns' disasters were caused by accidential events. Also, I grew up around Centralia, so I know how the town had pan out. In essense, I am unaware of any other town in reality that could compare to the events of Raccoon City, like Centralia. - *.:.`ShadowFox` S.T.A.R.S..:.* 23:07, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Okay, someone had erased the whole section of the location of Raccoon City just to prove a point. This I find to be disrespectful to the other editors of the page, when most of us go out of our way to provide the information and facts for this section. -.- There is no need to delete the whole thing. Instead, try fitting your thoughts in with the information that is already there, and if there is incorrect English and Grammar, and false information... Sure, change it. But at least attempt to stick with the original writer's thoughts and research.

Also, I like to point this out, I am having a hard time editing Wikipedia when I change some pages around. So, it's not always my poor English and Grammar skills that have the pages look a little messy. If anyone can fix this, then be my guest. I would appreciate it. :) - *.:.`ShadowFox` S.T.A.R.S..:.* 16:38, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The end of Raccoon City

There is a fundamental misunderstanding of the mechanism of EMP in this section of the entry. I've removed all the dicussion as to the effects of weapon type and altitude as they were, in my view, very misguided (even within a fictional setting). I would suggest that anyone wishing to discuss as to why the protagonist's helicopter wasn't downed by the EMP from the blast read the wikipedia entry on EMP thoroughly before adding more.

ahpook 13:00, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Real prototype

Is there a really existing prototype of Raccoon City? Just wondered if it was one of these American towns all named Racine, which suit rather well (approximately same population and size, for example).

[edit] Assasination?

"(Umbrella Scientist James Marcus released the T-Virus at the mansion after being assassinated by Albert Wesker and William Birkin. Marcus had planned to release it into Raccoon City, but was killed by Rebecca Chambers and Billy Coen in the Umbrella Training Facility in the Arklay Mountains.)"

How could Marcus release the virus after being assasinated by Wesker and Birkin. Also, how could he then be killed by Chambers and Coen...? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 35.11.210.109 (talk) 17:48, 14 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Clean up

This thing needs clean up, aside from the above error:

"But as of Resident Evil 4 when Umbrella went under the U.S government took over the facility."

and

"Umbrella also sent in several Umbrella Biohazard Countermeasure Service (U.B.C.S.) squads for search-and-rescue missions on the 26th and 27 September, which ended disastrously for the survivors."

It's not just grammer. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 35.11.210.109 (talk) 17:59, 14 February 2007 (UTC).