User talk:R. fiend/Archive2

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Contents 1 Nancy Zerg 2 Prince Hal 3 BSE Sensex 4 River Kwai 5 vfd stuff 6 Barnstar 7 VfD Process 8 Advice on some articles I stumbled upon 9 Classical one-hit wonders 10 Thanks 11 Text "salvaged" from Internet terrorism 12 Egill Skallagrímsson 13 Chicago aldermen 14 Universism undeletion 15 Tommy Makem 16 Professor Birch & Pokecruft 17 Da Strike 18 Could you explain something? 19 Penis envy 20 Jeopardy 21 GRider 22 3RR 23 Jeopardy book

[edit] Nancy Zerg

Thanks for the better merge of the Zerg stuff into the Ken Jennings article. It looks better now. --OntarioQuizzer 00:04, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Prince Hal

Oooh! The mind truly boggles when you stop to think how many Prince Henrys there have been. I'll make a stab at it sometime when the wiki's moving a bit faster. - Nunh-huh 02:27, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Nicely done. To list every Prince Harry would be impossible; much better to stick to the famous ones. -Nunh-huh 19:01, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] BSE Sensex

Hey Fiend- I was able to confirm that the NSE-50 in question was in fact the Nifty. As for the BSE Sensex, I added some data including their website, but was unable to find a source for the constituent list. The link on their webpage is broken. Awkwardly enough, I do have a source of that data through my work, but it is a paid service from which I would have ethical problems sharing the data, despite the fact that the constituent list should be public knowledge. Nevertheless, when the sensex site fixes their link, we can pull the constituent list from there. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 15:57, Feb 1, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] River Kwai

Just a short question about this river. Are you sure the spelling Kwhae Noi is correct, or should it be spelled Khwae Noi. I ask you because there is a discussion about this in the german wikipedia and I want to be sure of the spelling because google finds more hits with Khwae as with Kwhae. --ElRakı ?! 18:27, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] vfd stuff

Hi. I've reviewed the vfd's for Stacy Armstrong and Robin Gabrielli. Counting the nominator's vote makes each one 2/3 for deletion, so I've deleted those articles; there's no policy for not counting the nominator, nor is there for counting anonymous votes. It looks like there are promo links all over the place, but I'm too lazy to clean them up. Regards & happy editing, Wile E. Heresiarch 06:50, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

Hey, thanks for the Barnstar. Just trying to do my part. Kevin Rector 17:50, Feb 14, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] VfD Process

I can not assume a vote of something unless it is clearly spelled out for me. I may misinterpret the intent of the original voter who placed the article up.

As quoted from Wikipedia:Deletion policy: "When in doubt, don't delete." and "The exact method of determining rough consensus varies from time to time, case to case, and person to person."

It is my personal opinion, without a clear intent spelled by the nominator, I can not count the vote. If you feel that I have made a judgement error, you may ask one of the other VFD maintainers to review it, such as Joyous, Rossami or our newest administrator, dbenbenn. I am only following policy, which is, when in doubt, don't delete. -- AllyUnion (talk) 21:08, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I also do not count sockpuppet votes, anonymous votes, and unsigned votes. -- AllyUnion (talk) 21:48, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

R. fiend, I think the intent of the nominator is usually pretty obvious. I can't remember a case of an article which I deleted in which the nominator's intent seemed unclear to me. Of course the intent may be "I want to find out what other people think" rather than "delete". Wile E. Heresiarch 15:46, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Advice on some articles I stumbled upon

Hey, I found articles on Brian Weikle and Tom Walsh. Definitely notable in the Jeopardy pantheon, but notable enough for inclusion in Wikipedia? I'm thinking of nominating for VfD just to see what the community thinks - but I'm personally neutral on both articles. What do you think? --OntarioQuizzer 23:36, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Classical one-hit wonders

Go for it... be bold.

I plead guilty to spending a lot of time arguing for the article to be kept and very little time since in working on it... always an issue on VfD.

But I don't personally feel any urgency about improving the page—remember, I thought it was OK to keep it as it was.

I have no objection at all to any good-faith refactoring you would choose to do. The essential information I would like to see preserved are the actual composer names, titles of works, and any useful short accompanying information, for those items which, in the consensus opinion of those self-appointed Wikipedian editors who have chosen to work on the page, are valid items.

Unlike some VfD discussants, I believe that the reality is that 90% of Wikipedia is in fact the consensus opinion of self-appointed editors, and that's OK. I made the point on the mailing list that an article like Force doesn't give any references at all, except to a web page for a calculator. It says "f = ma," and if you ask "sez who," the only possible answer is "anyone who has taken physics knows this and we've all taken physics." Nobody bothers to find a citation for things that they are confident are widely believed among people knowledgeable in the subject matter.

The present article goes on at way too much length noting the subjectivity of the judgements. That should be stated briefly. I think there's no point in attempting a bright-line definition of "one-hit wonder in classical music." The stuff that came out in VfD--the existence of the DG album, and the existence of a website that claims to be a sales-based classical "top 100 list"--could be mentioned and if you don't I may get around to it at some point.

I'm a little uneasy about merging it into one-hit wonder in the sense that I don't know how the people who watch that page would feel about it. However, that article does have plenty of room. I preferred the suggestion that the title be changed to something like "Popularity in classical music" Dpbsmith (talk) 15:14, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the heads up and revert on my homepage. Megan1967 00:57, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Text "salvaged" from Internet terrorism

As you cast a vote on the VfD for Internet terrorism I thought you should be alerted to a current RfC about the fate of the content taking place at Talk:Cyber-terrorism. -- Antaeus Feldspar 20:06, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Egill Skallagrímsson

• Dear R. fiend! I do not understand why Icelandic charactes have been replaced with something as < ??? > . I make a lot of testing, have reported many errors at http://bugzilla.wikipedia.org but I do not understand this.
• If you have problems with the version as of http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Egill_Skallagr%EDmsson&oldid=10552983 please specify what operating system and browser you are using.
• If it is a problem let us replace all characters witch character code >= 128 with codings like &#nnnn; .
• Would be nice to know at what other characters or pages you experience similar problems.
• Would be happy to here your answer. Best regards Gangleri | Th | T 01:22, 2005 Mar 8 (UTC)

• Dear R. fiend! The only mention about "<eth>" I could find was nl:Overleg:Björk, see [1] and [2]. Regards Gangleri | Th | T 09:45, 2005 Mar 8 (UTC)

[edit] Chicago aldermen

Hi there! Since the discussion seemed finished, I've closed up the Wikipedia:Deletion_policy/Local_politicians discussion for now. I believe consensus has been established that local politicians deserve mention in Wikipedia, but not in a separate article UNLESS they have done something exceptional. Would you please check if you find this a reasonable conclusion, and leave a short note on that page's talk page? Thanks.

Yours, Radiant! 10:13, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Universism undeletion

R. fiend, would you please take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Votes_for_undeletion#Universist_Movement ... there is new info after your vote. Universist 03:49, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tommy Makem

I noticed this guy is on your "to do" list, you might want to take a look at the basic stub which I've made. Kappa 11:14, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• Actually I got those songs from his website [3], it says "but it is as a songwriter that he will live for ever. "The Rambles of Spring", "Farewell to Carlingford", "Gentle Annie", "The Winds Are Singing Freedom" and of course, "Four Green Fields" are all standards in the repertoire of folksingers around the world...". Kappa 03:24, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Professor Birch & Pokecruft

Hey. Over at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Professor Birch (recount), I think you left a comment in the wrong section (in the previous discussion, rather than the new one). By the way, I agree completely; a merge vote is not the same as keep vote. Android79 16:49, Mar 17, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Da Strike

I replied to your message here: Talk:Da_Strike - Mattingly23 13:28, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Could you explain something?

Hello.

I gather there's some sort of controversy surrounding Eric Bruno Borgman, which strikes me as bizarre, since he seems (according to User:Vagrant's article about him) to be nothing more than a minor celebrity, and certainly not the sort of person who would inspire a major uproar (and correct me if I'm wildly mistaken). You seem to be involved in this dispute, judging by Pitchka's comment on this article.

Would you be so kind as to briefly explain the issue? It's not urgent. I'm just curious. Binadot 03:08, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC) Talk

• Thanks for the help. I was under the impression that Borgman was actually a celebrity (albeit a very minor one), so it surprised me to see his article deleted. I see now that I had just read the vanity Wikipedia article some time ago and subsequently forgotten where I had read it. Even so, it seems to me that he is, as of this time, notable enough for an article. User:Vagrant's article seems fine to me. What is our policy on notable individuals who have created vanity articles, or who have been publicized by friends using such articles? Binadot 05:28, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• • I see your point. Having seen his IMDb listing, he doesn't seem at all notable. He certainly is an accomplished self-publicist, though.

Thanks for going out of your way to explain all this. I hope I haven't been a bother. Binadot 07:04, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Penis envy

Oy. thanks, I didn't realize there was a history. I've deleted the rfd and reverted the Penis envy article to its previous version. RickK 07:24, Mar 21, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Jeopardy

Hello, I am taking the Jeopardy contestant exam next month. Any advice? Taco Deposit | Talk-o to Taco 21:00, Mar 21, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. I have been playing the latest PC version of Jeopardy. The game includes a mock contestant exam, and the game itself states that 35 or above is passing. I got 37, which is too close for my liking, but we'll see. I'll probably pick up the book from B&N, and take that practice exam too.

I have a question, in the PC game, the clue is read, then a second passes, and then there is a chime and the edges of the screen light up to let you know it is safe to buzz in. In real life, is there any indicator to let you know when to buzz in? Can you buzz in immediately after the clue is read, or is there a slight pause like in the PC game? Thanks, Taco Deposit | Talk-o to Taco 14:43, Mar 22, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. I hope buzzing in to the computer game turns out to be accurate compared to buzzing in real life.

I got picked to take the test the same as you; I signed up online and got an email that I was picked. I am taking the test in Madison, WI. Taco Deposit | Talk-o to Taco 14:17, Mar 23, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] GRider

Regarding GRider's 'Socratic' VfD nominations and the ensuing reactions by voters, please read and comment on Wikipedia:Requests for comment/GRider2. Thanks. Radiant_* 12:23, Mar 22, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 3RR

I would be grateful if you could keep the 3RR rule for your own edits in mind. ~~

[edit] Jeopardy book

Is the Barnes & Noble Jeopardy book you mentioned The Jeopardy! Book: The Answers, the Questions, the Facts, and the Stories of the Greatest Game Show in History by Alex Trebek and Peter Barsocchini? Or is it something else? Thanks, Taco Deposit | Talk-o to Taco 20:04, Mar 28, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. I just ordered it. I'm mainly buying it for the practice test. Taco Deposit | Talk-o to Taco 21:12, Mar 28, 2005 (UTC)