Talk:R. C. Sproul

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[edit] Denomination

I would like to see at least a mention of Dr. Sproul's Denominational affiliation. The article does mention his support of Calvinism and he seems to be involved with primarily Presbyterian Universities, but it would be informative to note his specific denominational affiliation (i.e. if, indeed he is Presbyterian, which branch?). William

I attempted to clarify. He is ordained in the PCA, though he isn't currently ministering there. --Flex 16:15, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jr. Deposed

Shouldn't this be on a page about Jr. not Sr.? On January 26th, 2006, a declaratory judgement from Kenneth Talbot, moderator of Westminster presbytery of which R.C. Sproul, Jr. was a member, stated that R.C. Sproul, Jr. and three of his elders were deposed of office on various charges 1. The entire document can be found for reference here 2

Agreed. Since such a page doesn't exist, I deleted it. --Flex 16:15, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

An anon at 70.124.193.87 has twice added information about RC Sproul, Jr. being defrocked to this article, and the second time, s/he deleted my non-trivial edits. It appears that the rest of us agree that that information belongs in an article about Sproul Jr., not Sr. Since none exists but if that information belongs here in the first place (IMHO, it seems more like gossip at this point than encyclopedic content), there are two choices: leave it out or create a page for Jr. Thoughts? --Flex 18:23, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Miscellaneous Questions

1) Since there is now a separate page for R.C. Sproul Jr., any info on him beyond "Sproul's son, Dr. R. C. Sproul, Jr., is also a theologian" seems tangential to this article. If it remains, "Meadowview, Virginia" should be changed to "the Bristol, Virginia, area," (per the center's mailing address) as the center is no longer located in Meadowview.

2) Why the commas in "an American, Calvinist theologian, and pastor"? Surely "American" is modifying both "Calvinist theologian" and "pastor."

3) Is there any consensus on whether/when to use "Calvinist" v. "Reformed"? My instinct here would be to go with "Reformed" but I can't defend that beyond my own intuition.

Thanks in advance for feedback. Kyriosity 05:25, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Re 1 and 2: be bold and make it so! :-) Re 3: "Reformed" is probably better as far as terminology goes, but (perhaps confusingly) Reformed redirects to Reformed churches while Calvinist redirects to Calvinism. Some would make a distinction between Calvinist and Reformed Christians (cf. the comments by Jim Ellis at Talk:Reformed Baptist#John Piper), but I don't think there's a strong consensus on the matter. I'd like to find a reliable source that adequately distinguishes these things (any ideas?). --Flex (talk|contribs) 14:32, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

OK, contrary to my character, I was brave and made the first two changes. Considering the linkage issues, "Calvinist" is probably better than "Reformed" here. Kyriosity 20:00, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Calvinism vs Reformed=

I beleive Reformed is the better term. Reformed is the broadest of the two terms. Calvinist is a narrower term. Sproul is Presbyterian by denomination which historicly traces back to the REFORMATION of the Catholic Church, hence the term Reformed. Calvinism is a major school of theology within the Reformation Movement. One does not have to be Calvinistic to belong to the Reformed Movement. Although, one can not be Calvinistic in theological thought and not imply Reformation of the Catholic Church as Calvin denied Papal Authority lerafe 23:29, 25 January 2007 (UTC)