Talk:Quinceañera
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amazingly, the spanish wikipedia doesn't have an article on this subject! Numerao 14:47, 10 May 2004 (UTC)
Probably because to alot of the spanish speakers, they just know what it is. Rab 07:03, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
- As of June 2006, eswiki does have an article: a translation of ours! Melchoir 20:13, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
- I agree, everybody make that celebration so everybody know what it is. But yeah I will improve the spanish article and maybe the english one. I also get some pics when its my sis 15 birthday, next february ;) But at least here in colombia the ceremony is very similar to the destription on eswiki about the one in argentina, except for the breakfast with beer at that time people eat caldo de costilla which, when you are drunk or with hangover is know as levantamuertos--ometzit<col> 03:38, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Not in Spain
As far as I know, this tradition is currently unknown in Spain. Maybe in older times it was celebrated, but not anymore. The puesta de largo (presenting the daughters to society in their first evening dress (?) was limitted to high society
The quinceanera orginiated in Mexico.
[edit] Lacks sources and research
This article seems to be collection of personal experience as opposed to common practices. PLEASE AVOID GENERALIZATIONS and REFRAIN FROM USING PERSONAL EXPERIENCES. There had been a lot written about quinceaneras in Latin American and the US. If you're going to describe general experiences cite your sources. Where can you get sources? Check online, at your local library, or at the library of a university close by with a Sociology or Latin American Studies department.
This is particularly hard with a huge and diverse country like Mexico where celebration vary from region to region as well as within socio-economic echelons. Furthermore, I highly doubt that description of a quince for Cuba holds true today, as there is no upperclass in Cuba anymore. So what you're describing may only be found in Southern Florida.
Also, what about the debate now amongst Latinos, why spend all this money on a quinceanera when we can start saving for college and stuff? It's a real criticism that should be discussed.--Arthurian Legend 19:12, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
- The quince is still seen as important in Cuba - many people save up in order to give their girl a quince; whilst some who's parents are too poor feel they have missed out. -- Beardo 11:04, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Sources
Although I appreciate the need for sources, I don't think that flag is appropriate for this article. People born into Latino/a culture wrote most of this. In general, Quinces are not somthing we need to research, since it's somthing we grew up with. Just because it's a different culture than that of the flagger, that doesn't mean we should have to refrence our experiences, as if they aren't real. It would be as if someone from the United States wrote that turkey was traditionally eaten on Thanksgiving and was asked for a citation.
Way to go on cultural compentency Wikipedia! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.231.55.218 (talk) 20:37, 24 January 2007 (UTC).
- This article in particular suffers from not only being unsourced but also being written in an informal style that emphasizes the personal experience nature of the content being entered and highlights the lack of scholarly treatment. Since Wikipedia is an encyclopedia not a magazine or forum, with a policy that the standard for inclusion is verifiablity not truth this is indicative of a poor quality article. Articles that are unsourced, regardless of the subject matter, should be flagged to encourage editors to raise the standard. There is no reason we shouldn't have great Latino/a related articles on Wikipedia, accepting lower standards for them isn't cultural competency - it's patronizing. -- Siobhan Hansa 11:15, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
I second this. Paladinwannabe2 21:57, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Please Fix
The entire article is not functioning properly here, please fix it it, thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.67.128.85 (talk) 16:07, 23 February 2007 (UTC).
I am from Mexico City, it did not originate from Spain. The ritual is precolumbian and it is a party that is unknown to creoles. My Mother, grandmother and so on...never had this party...this is the case from either side of the family. This party is usually performed by the Meztizo or Indigenous Mexicans only. To your surprise Creole families never celebrate the day of the dead either.
