Talk:Quarterback

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[edit] Importance?

Dumb question from a non-American: the quarterback is the most important (and usually best-paid) player on the team aren't they? --Robert Merkel 03:59 Oct 3, 2002 (UTC)

Yes, usually. -- Zoe

[edit] Origin of name

I'd like to know where the term quarterback came from. For that matter, what is the reason for the name of most of the positions. --Allen 03:51, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)

Well I'm not an expert on these things, and this is just from my observations, but I always thought of it this way:

  • the fullback is "all the way" back from the line of scrimmage.
  • the halfback (i.e. running back) is roughly halfway from the fullback to the line.
  • the quarterback is halfway from the halfback to the line...i.e. a quarter of the way back. Kirjtc2 22:49, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Yeah, that's how it originated. However, in modern formations, the fullback is usually positioned closer to the line than the halfback. --SodiumBenzoate 05:38, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Article in need of attention template

this article wreaks of POV issues and relevancy to its topic. Afew examples, in which I could ramble on for ages about regarding how and why are listed below.

  • Regardless of these mediocre passing numbers, his rushing threat makes him the one of the most dynamic players in football, and an elite quarterback.
  • In recent years, with the rising importance of offensive coordinators and their reliance on scripted game plans and the use of headsets, the quarterback now usually receives which play to call from the coach on the sidelines. One of the few quarterbacks in the NFL who routinely call their own plays is Peyton Manning of the Indianapolis Colts. In the 2004-2005 season he surpassed Dan Marino's record 48 touchdowns in a season with his 49. He also owns the record for the highest passer rating (121.1), a rating system based on a combination of touchdowns thrown, yards thrown, pass completion percentage, and interceptions thrown. (should just reference Passer rating
  • In the modern game, quarterbacks are typically evaluated on their passing statistics, including total yardage, completion ratio, touchdowns, and the ability to avoid interceptions. Up through the 1990s, most (is this a history of players, or a article explaining the QB position?) of the prominent NFL quarterbacks were "drop back passers", who typically took between five and seven steps behind the line of scrimmage immediately after snapping the ball to look for an open passing receiver down field. (please don't just add afew mobile quarterbacks in that era to it, this article has enough irrelevant mentions of popular players already) Mithotyn 09:38, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
I've attended to some of the things you mentioned, and removed the attention template (generally, more specific cleanup templates are preffered). I think you are talking about two different issues--the random discussions of famous quarterbacks, which I've toned down, and the lack of a referenced history. The latter is definitely a problem, anyone who edits this page is strongly urged to cite your sources. The former is not--examples are examples, and can be easily edited so as to be NPOV. Chick Bowen 21:51, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] List of current QB's

I'd like to see a list of all the active QB's in the NFL. Can anyone do that. Just for informational purposes only. -- —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.88.253.128 (talk • contribs).

[edit] not hiting quarter backs

why is it that from the highschool level on up that the QB isn't suposed to be hit in practice? In a game the other team isn't not going to hit them just because they are a QB The QB should be prepared for anything shouldn't he? please help out a confused rugby player who doesn't get the finer mechanics of foot ball

The quarterback leads the offense on the field. The coach doesn't want the QBs to get hurt in situations that he can control; ie. practice. It's meant to reduce the risk of injury to the QB so that he can be in tip-top shape during a game. Tim 22:00, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Also, I don't know that it is universally true that quarterbacks are always practicing under no-contact rules. I think it depends on the practice and the coach. Johntex\talk 02:38, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Receptions

Are there historical quarterbacks who were exceptionally good at receiving passes? Xunflash 03:27, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

  • Usually, QB's don't Receive Passed, however back in '85 Walter Payton would sometimes take a hand off, fake the run, and throw it off the QB Jim McMahon. --ShadowJester07 03:45, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] POV/Sources for Truth section of article

Something needs to be done with this section to clean it into a more directed account of the QB position's role in the game. Right now it reads like an apology letter to the fans for why someone's QB didn't win them the game. ju66l3r 22:29, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Honestly, the whole thing is extremely relative. I strongly agree with you and complement you for actually doing away with the whole "Notable QB" section. I suggest getting rid of the "Great QB" section, as similar sections for other football positions have been deleted. The sources are subjective too, as many of the top ranking Sports Analysts and Commentators are biased. --ShadowJester07 00:47, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
Can anyone tell me what the point of the Truths and Misconceptions part of the article is. It appears to be bizarrely subjective. Cardigan3000 10:53, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
I added a an WP:OR tag to the section. I tried using Google to find some sources to justify the section's claim, but none came up. -- ShadowJester07  ►Talk  21:10, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

The quote "Tremendous emphasis is placed on a quarterback's win-loss record..." should be removed. I dare anyone, even the most versed college/NFL football fan, to name ANY quarterback's win-loss record off the top of their head. The only time a QB's W-L record even becomes remotely mentioned is with respect to wins (or lack thereof) in the playoffs.

[edit] A better picture?

The fact that this article has a Navy (which is known for it's running game) quarterback as a primary picture is a shame for the quartebacks in general. Could anyone come up with a more deserving image? teevee

There's no other Fair-Use Image which depicts a quarterback actually setting up to throw. The Two main images of quarterbacks are used to show a quarterback's role, not to illustrate the NFLs/CFL's flavor of the week --ShadowJester07 00:31, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
Well that is not entirely true. Have you looked at the commons? For instance, there is this one and this one. I think the Navy one is higher quality though. We could rotate them if anyone cares to bother. We definitely need more pictures of quarterbacks though. If any one has any good ones (must be legally willing/able to upload them under a free license) please add them to the commons. Johntex\talk 02:45, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
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