User talk:PurplePlatypus

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You probably know the deal, this is a talk page. Feel free to leave comments about edits or comments of mine that you've seen elsewhere, or for that matter, any comments at all that are germane to pages I've been editing lately.

Normally, I will reply here. If I reply on your talk page, it will generally mean the issue is particularly important to me, or struck a nerve in some way.

Contents 1 Handy Links 2 Please cite sources 3 Your message 4 Begging the question - valid argument, false premise, true contention 5 More question begging

[edit] Handy Links

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[edit] Please cite sources

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We welcome and appreciate your contributions, such as List of Magic: The Gathering terms, but we regretfully cannot accept original research. Please find and add a reliable citation to your recent edit so we can verify your work. Uncited information may be removed at any time. Thanks for your efforts, and happy editing! Can't sleep, clown will eat me 23:51, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

In the case of that particular article, you might as well blank the whole fucking thing then. PurplePlatypus 23:53, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

That may be, it does appear to be largely based upon original research and there is the old addage that Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Should this be considered for deletion on AFD? Let me know. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 00:13, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

-sigh- One person's Modus Ponens is another's Modus Tollens, I guess. PurplePlatypus 00:20, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your message

Thanks. Was there a particular edit you wanted to query? I recommend you read my user page which explains the spelling changes I am making, and the consensus established for them. I would urge you not to misuse the term vandalism to describe good-faith attempts to improve the encyclopedia. I shall hold off making any more changes to give you a chance to review this and reply. Best wishes, --Spellmaster 10:35, 9 November 2006 (UTC) Actually, forget about it. You can ignore my message (which was mostly to do with the Humourous thing). Sorry. PurplePlatypus 19:09, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Begging the question - valid argument, false premise, true contention

Hi Platypus, you are indeed correct, my bad and keep up the good work. Grumpyyoungman01 05:45, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

What may have been confusing was a certain somewhatt overheated edit summary of mine a few days earlier. The problem in that earlier case really was just that the premise smuggled in the conclusion; I shouldn't even have used the word "valid" in that summary, much less in all caps. PurplePlatypus 05:50, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

You might be able to help me out in a related matter, in the article I'm entitled to my opinion I have linked to the concept of validity, but it may in fact be more appropriate to link to soundness. Could you please have a look at this? Grumpyyoungman01 22:37, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Either seems odd in that context. Personally I wouls say you simply need reasons, period. Neither soundness nor validity really applies to reasons per se. (At least, if you're talking about the senses in which those terms are used in formal logic, as opposed to everyday speech; in the latter, "valid" seems fine but I would lose the link in that case). PurplePlatypus 03:20, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for you help. Grumpyyoungman01 04:19, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More question begging

Hi Platypus,

I think that the idea of a co-premise and an inference objection can still be worked into the article somehow, via an argument map representation of the begging the question fallacy. Here is an example that I am working on/thinking about [1], do you have any suggestions for its improvement so that it would be useful in the article? The Bible example is just in my mind at present, it may be more sensible to choose another example. Grumpyyoungman01 06:22, 19 November 2006 (UTC)