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[edit] Pulse / Heart rate
What is the exact relation between pulse and heart rate? Do these terms mean the same thing (and should the articles be merged)? If not, the difference should be made clear and the articles should be linked to each other. (Disclaimer: I don't know anything about medicine, I'm just wondering.) 212.90.80.75 16:16, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Pulse and heart rate are usually the same, unless the heart is not strong enough, and only pumps very little blood with some strokes. In that case, the heart rate can be (much) higher than the pulse. I'll make some changes. JFW | T@lk 17:20, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Pulse annd heart rate are not the same. Pulse is a measure of the heart rate, however it also has other properties which are characteristically changed in some diseases: rhythm, fullness and the shape of the pulse wave. User_talk: Eleassar777
- Pulse and pulse rate are different. When a doctor says pulse it encompasses several things - rate (beats per minutes - normal vs. tachy vs. brady), rhythm (regular, regularly irregular (present in second degree heart block), irregular irregular (present in atrial fibrilation)), pattern/type (normal, pulsus tardus et parvus, pulsus paradoxus, pulsus bisferiens), strength (strong, normal, weak, absent). Heart rate and pulse are distinct from one another - see pulsus paradoxus. Nephron 04:47, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Pulse
What is pulse? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Charlybrown12 (talk • contribs) 17:08, 8 February 2007 (UTC).
I'm confused, why pulse? How does it work? Please reply for my questions as I no longer understand this website.
[edit] a function of mass?
My suspicion is that a person's resting pulse rate is a function of body mass. The smaller the mass the higher the pulse rate. In order to maintain a particular flow volume there is more friction and less momentum per pulse in the smaller system thus a higher pulse rate needed. See:
http://www.math.niu.edu/~rusin/teaching-math/360/014.pdf
- Firstly: why are you announcing this here? Wikipedia is not a forum for original research.
- Secondly: how would you propose the feedback system would work if pulse rate were a function of the BMI? Through the hypothalamus??? :-) JFW | T@lk 01:31, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Pulse and heart rate
The values given in the section about palpability of the pulse are somewhat a myth. A lot of people believe these values to be incorrect or at least misleading.
For example, in the book on the clinical examination I use (A.Kocijancic, Klinična preiskava, Littera Picta, Slovenia, 2000), it is written that the brachial pulse is palpable when the systolic pulse is at least 50 mmHg. So this is close to saying that it is not palpable under 50 mmHg (and not under 80 mmHg). User; Eleassar777
I agree, this is probably an oversimplification. I work with newborn and prematurely born children. It is possible to feel a pulse here also, in spite of blood pressure being real low at times. I suspect body habitus is a factor. When the patient weighs 0,5 kg the blood pressure need not be high to be felt. --Ekko 08:44, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The longest time without a pulse rate
The following was added to the article on 9/27/2005 by 4.154.204.183. Google verifies it, but it has serious stylistic problems and it was not well-placed well within the article. I reverted and placed the passage here in case someone else can find a good place for it. -Abe Dashiell 00:23, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
The longest time a person survived without a pulse in their vacular system is 3 days Julie Mills was at the point of death from severe heart failure and viral myocarditis when on Aug 14 1998 surgeons at the John Radcliffe Hospital Oxford used a nonpulsatile blood pump to support her for a week in which her heart recovered and the pump was removed Longest time survived without a pulse
[edit] Re:- Merge
I'd be inclined to just delete resting pulse, or have it direct here. It contains no information that isn't already in the main Pulse article. If someone wanted to expand on the concept of a resting pulse rate and the factors affecting it (age, health etc..) then it might be worthy of its own article, although I doubt it really. As it stands it reads like a dictionary definition and adds nothing. --John24601 22:28, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
- Hi, I added the merge signs for people into the subject to give their opinion, and I agree with you to delete the contents of Resting pulse and make it a re-direct. Poulsen 22:50, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "Pulse" or "pulse rate"?
Is it correct to say "a pulse of 60 bpm" or "a pulse rate of 60 bpm"? It seems to me one or the other must be correct, but not both. The current article seems to treat the two uses as equivalent. --Ds13 05:40, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- The pulse is a sign which has 3 main characteristics - the rate, the rhythm, and the strength. In good clinical practice, the person who checks the pulse will assess and record all 3 of these. However, in most cases any rhythm disturbances will be chronic (and therefore insignificant) or emergent(therefore presenting symptoms which indicate an immediate electrocardiogram, which is far better at determening the exact rhythm, so rhythm isn't really that important. Similarly, strength of the pulse is much more objectively measured via blood pressure, so it's not often commented on. Consequently, the pulse rate is the only clinically important feature of the pulse in its own right, the other two are rarely checked and are, in any case, better assessed via different methods. As for how you describe it, it doesn't really matter, although if you were being super accurate I guess I'd go for the second of your two options. --John24601 09:42, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- John24601, thanks for the comprehensive response! --Ds13 17:28, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
