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[edit] alternative names

has anyone else ever heard of these alternative names?? I haven't... [[User:Lachatdelarue|Lachatdelarue (talk)]] 20:42, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Per New Encyclopedia of the Dog, B. Fogle, 2000. Alternatives names have mostly matched what we've recorded in various places, so I have no reason to doubt it. Elf | Talk

Pagu is Japanese for Pug. Nov 2 2005

I've heard of mops before, several times. --BrownHornet21 17:40, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

I believe that Mop comes from the Dutch word "Mopschointje"(Not entirely sure if its spelled right, correct me if I'm wrong) which means Pug.--Rachellala 21:43, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

I just did a little searching; this site says: "It is said that Holland was the first European country to see the Pug. It may be that the Dutch East India Company, which thrived on trading all over the Orient and Europe, was the fu3t to bring this wonderful little dog called the Mopshond back." Similarly, this site says "The Pugs that were traded to Europe seem to have first landed in Holland, possibly as a result of the famous trading company, the Dutch East India Company. The Dutch named the breed Mopshond, which is still in use today." I didn't see the other term anywhere; no searches or near misses on the word you mention, which doesn't necessarily mean it's off track, just maybe a couple too many wrong characters? Elf | Talk 22:02, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Smartness

Has anyone met a smart pug? I have met lots of pugs, and they have all been characterised by extreme stupidity and greed, which is part of their great charm. User: Brentford 16:45, 22 Nov 2004

I think a lot of dogs have undeserved reputations like this based on how people treat them. How many cutesy lap-type dogs do you know who weren't spoiled, undertrained, and overweight? I haven't known many pugs, but I certainly made the acquaintance of one who was a driven, fast-learning agility dog (who unfortunately died young); in the earlier days of agility, there were 3 people in the area competing with pugs and they definitely did above average work. Elf | Talk 23:02, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I knew one pug who was very cute and sweet, and sort of smart. But not exactly smart. Which causes my disbelief in the theory above. (KinseyLOL 21:28, 3 May 2006 (UTC))

I have a bug hes so cute but hess umm kind of dumb and he loves to eat --Caleb09 02:14, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I have a pug x That is smart but she is Fifteen years old and also mixed with Boston Terrier. She is reasonalbly smart for her age and she is not cenile (Can't remember how to spell word) yet.---The Doctor- "Would you like a Jelly Baby?" 23:21, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Just watched a television programme about a pug who is a dog agility champion. Far from stupid.

[edit] Disease question

My girlfriend took her pug to the vet the other week because of dermathitis and the vet commented that the dog was somewhat wobbly rearwards. She said it's a common condition among pugs. Something neurological apparantly. Anyone know the name of this disease?

To anyone who knows Swedish, the vet said they simply call it vingelmops - "wobble pug". :-)

Peter Isotalo 18:16, May 19, 2005 (UTC)

They can have problems with small children, as the children may poke the Pug's eyes.

Isn't this true of just about any animal??

Yes, except pugs have big eyes not protected by a prominent brow ridge, which makes them more vulnerable.

[edit] Bug

Please verify the article Bug (dog breed) contributed by an anot not long time ago. mikka (t) 01:45, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Mops redirects here?

While "mops" may be a variant name for the pug, I think in English it's far more commonly the plural of the word mop (or the 3rd person singular of the corresponding verb). So I'm changing the redirect of mops to point to mop, with a note there that anyone looking for the breed of dog should see pug. Angr/talk 11:53, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Well, dangitty dang, I set the blangedy blang page up as a disambig and then someone else changed it to point directly to here for some reason and now it points somewhere else. I'm going to revert it to a dab. Elf | Talk 17:47, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Order of the Pug

The Order of the Pug translated from de:Mops-Orden. --SGOvD webmaster (talk) 23:07, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of certain images

I have removed some images from the gallery, diff, becuase they are of poor quality and are not really that good. Kilo-Lima|^(talk) 17:32, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

I've looked at the images removed, and can't figure out what was wrong with them. Most were high resolution images, so I don't understand the "poor quality" justification - can you be more specific? As for "not really that good" - that's a subjective statement, and no one can really question your thoughts about the images - how you feel is how you feel. I do think that one person's subjective interpretation is not, in and of itself, a good enough reason to delete content off of Wikipedia. Can we get a reconsideration of this edit?

There was no non-megalomaniacal reason to delete those pictures. Some people, despite their alleged mensa level IQ fail to comprehend that some individual's aesthetic preferences don't further wikipedia's mission.

[edit] Please fix contradictions

I don't know enough about Pugs to fix this but some statements in this article contradict each other. Two different places state that Pugs need regular exercise to keep from getting fat. But at the bottom of the trivia section there are three photos, the last of which states "Pugs require a relatively amount of small exercise". Aside from the fact that this sentence doesn't technically make sense in English, it seems to be saying Pugs need very little exercise. Can somebody who knows something on this subject please reword that (and/or fix the other two statements if Pugs don't need regular exercise). Thanks. Fife Club 15:39, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, my pug is rather fat, so perhapes I shouldn't say anything, but my understanding is that while they don't require much exercise, for example a daily walk around the block is plenty, they enjoy their food enough that if they aren't getting what they need in exercise they will bulk up rather quickly.Rbl 04:09, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clean up

I have cleaned up the article; it was previously a copyright violation. Iolakana|^T 16:37, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Famous pug fanciers?

I know that Winston Churchill was fond of pugs ^[1] and his wife called him one as a term of endearment^[2]

[edit] Good article

This article posseses all of the qualities of a good article. If you ever chose to nominate the article for FA, I'd reccomend removing the gallery.Some P. E rson 14:30, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My edits

First of all, i hope my edits help. Pugs have also the appeal of their tongue which are funny. By the way, there are smart pugs, just somtimes they play around too much. Take my 11 month old pug, chato, which i added the picture of and i have more..He understands lots of things, he can sit, beg lay down and basically he doesnt pee, poop inside or damage any furniture, and the only things he has ever messed up are some plants and a little leg of furniture, which he was punished and then he never did it again, pugs just take patience, and not to be too rough on a dog. Now all he does is obey, be fun, loving, and greet anyone that comes into the house old and new with a heppy face, as he is NEVER mad or bites anyone for any reason. Pugs are smart, the dumb one might be the breeder. I hope my edits :)

Thank you for your contributions. Sounds like you have a nice pug! I have had to remove one edit that you made: the aka part. It appears that, because your pug is called Chato, does not mean that they are all also known as Chato. Your other contributions seem fine. Iolakana•T 18:37, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Apricot links to apricot the fruit, which isn't really relevant24.131.12.228 04:13, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ediots

One of my first edits to Wikipedia was slammed with, "You are, however, encouraged to add content instead of links to the encyclopedia." I added content. I also added a reference link to an extensive article that I would've been happy to share with Wikipedia. Both were removed. As a long-time owner of Pugs, I feel I know a little something about the breed. Your loss. Wikipedia deserves its reputation as a bunch of Ediots. --Peanutty 07:11, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Origin of name

Without citation, saying that the name is somehow derived from Puck out of Shakespeare seems a bit farfetched. I'm not going to change it, but I that was my first thought on reading. Cheers! Chuchunezumi 20:02, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Historical" role

There is a comment about a pug saving William of Orange's life at Hermigny. I've been googling for it, but more or less the only place I can find "Hermigny" or "Hermingny" mentioned, is in combination with this particular story and generally on pug enthousiast sites. It doesn't really seem a reliable source of information. At best, I'd call it a legend, but I definitely wouldn't present it as fact without more solid evidence. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 137.224.52.242 (talk) 10:38, 16 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] smartness

I would just like to say that we got a pug puppy for x-mas, and he is a very smart puppy. He already has learned a fair number of tricks. He really seems to catch on pretty fast. Some of the tricks he learnt with in the day. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.53.79.21 (talk) 16:01, 18 March 2007 (UTC).

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