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[edit] Merge

An article called Puertorrican people has recently been created. I would like reasons for both articles to exist. As I see it both articles could be merged into one article. Since Puerto Rican was created first and is the more common/accepted spelling/pronnunciation I believe that Puertorrican people should be merged into it. Any ideas, thoughts? Joelito 04:29, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

I agree that the articles should be merged. There is no justification for this information to be split in different locations. Consolidation will provide a more authorative source for locating this information and allow contributors to more easily participate without having to make redundant entries.--Samunoz1 20:59, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Puertorrican" atrocious spelling

"Puertorrican" is, to me, an atrocious spelling of the word. The articles may be merged, but I'd redirect the misspellings to "Puerto Rican" demf 17:45, 5 June 2006 (UTC)


Personally, no. Puertorrican is "spanglish" for Puertorriqueno(a). Also, Boriqua (not boricua) is the proper spelling. The island's Taino name is Borinquen.

Remember, Escuela (school) and Esquela (announcement of a death, obituary) do not share same definition or pronunciation (some people pronounce it the same).

Note: Words requiring special symbols (ex. Taino) was not inserted because I don't remember how. ^^


Alexzandro Rivera Aug. 31, 2006

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Also, Boriqua (not boricua) is the proper spelling. The island's Taino name is Borinquen.

Since these are Taino words of which there is no known written language we can only approximate the spelling as understood by the Spanish. Boriken/Borinquen and Boricua/Boriqua are all acceptable spellings in common usage.--Samunoz1 21:32, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Keep as it

Hi, I would like to recommend it stay its own article. I found it because I wanted to know the origin of the term Boricua, which is one quarter of my personal heritage (grandfather on mother's side). Even he didn't know who Puerto Ricans are referred to as Boricuas, and Cubans are only referred to as Cubanos. Same with Cuban people I have asked - no one knew. So having this be a separate article helped me to understand the term itself without having to wade through material not directly relevant to my search. 67.49.8.191 23:49, 17 May 2006 (UTC)Cheeop

There is an article on the term Boricua. I'm not sure I see the relevance of the term on the merger discussion.--Samunoz1 18:37, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Roberto Clemente

To Whom it may concern: There is no mention of one big PUERTO RICAN : ROBERTO CLEMENTE The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.118.56.146 (talk • contribs) .

The Honorable Clemente has his own page. He need not have a specific mention in a general discussion about Puerto Rican people.--Samunoz1 19:23, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reorganize

There is a need to separate the sections relating to Puerto Rico and Puerto Ricans in the United States (outside of Puerto Rico) (or what I call Stateside Puerto Ricans). Those sections relating to Puerto Rico should be incorporated into the article on Puerto Rico. A new article title, Puerto Ricans in the United States (Stateside Puerto Ricans) should be created to include sections on the migration to the US and Puerto Ricans communities in the US.--Prpolicy 18:59, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree that sections solely dealing with the Island of Puerto Rico should be moved to that article. No need to duplicate effort and content, not to mention clutter. However, I think "Stateside" Puerto Ricans should be kept in the Puerto Rican article. Again the goal is to make this page one stop authorative spot for all Puerto Rican people. --Samunoz1 18:26, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What?

The beginning of the 2nd paragraph could be improved. Please read the following:

In other parts of the Spanish-speaking world, depending on the presence of native indigenous populations that existed prior to European colonization and subsequent introduction of Sub-Saharan West African slave trade and the immigrations from Europe, Puerto Rico's census in 2000, reflects that the population is said to be (81%) of European (Spanish) descent according to U.S. census records.

There is no elaboration or clarification of why the sentence starts with "In other parts of the Spanish-speaking world". We are talking specifically about Puerto Rico here. The paragraph mentions indigenous populations, European colonization, and slave trade and somehow haphazardly continues onto 2000 US census. It almost seems like something was accidentally chopped of by another contributor. I'll most likely edit it if the original contributor does not fix it.--Samunoz1 19:25, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Amerindian influence

Anyone who goes to Puerto Rico can see that the Taino/Amerindian (Native American)presence lives. Lets not be so careless in such an important aspect of our ancestral history. - signed by anon IP

[edit] Expand Puerto Rican migration template

Please add new articles on other migrations to Puerto Rico. There were Greeks, Italians, Maltese and Portuguese settlers. The articles in need are taken down for not "appearing" in the first place (red links). Let's get it started and include them in the template. I re-edit a few things in the article, but be careful on how "hate groups viewed" Puerto Ricans, not as people is more appropriate and sensitive than "as animals". To type it in is going to pull people's chains or push emotional buttons, so I don't want that in here on an encyclopediac article. The article hasn't stated racism against Puerto Ricans and Latinos as a whole has been on the wane, but the stereotypes depict Puerto Ricans are a problem, like how some view Jews and black people in horribly distorted ways. + 63.3.14.1 08:48, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV issues (e.g. woe is the immigrant Puerto Rican; discrimination everywhere)

Please, keep the bleeding hearts out of the ethnicity articles. I grew up with Puerto Ricans in my Middle and High schools in Hartford County, CONN. I can attest to good and bad sides from interacting with them, the things they have brought to and taken from my state. The good things you don't have a problem hearing; neither do I. The fact remains is that they have dilapidated the City of Hartford and environs, a Puerto Rican mayor further proof of the blind eyes to this issue. Hartford was a safe and clean place, progressive and in the lead. Hartford is now stagnant and backwards, with vandalism and violence strewn across the streets. Notice how the culprits are not African-American, nor were they ever? My grandmother's family founded Hartford, so all we are asking for is respect. Who are the victims in this instance? Is this the price to pay for welcoming you into our homes? Please, get over yourselves! Les Invisibles 07:02, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mexican-Puerto Rican rivalry?

Is there an known rivalry between the two, as I've heard people from both groups saying that they find it particularly offensive to be mistaken for the other group? If so, should this be added into the article? I ask this because on the article of Selena, it's mentioned that when Jennifer Lopez was selected to play the character of Selena, there was a brief controversy because of JLo's Puerto Rican heritage and Selena's Mexican heritage.Jlujan69 21:47, 10 February 2007 (UTC)