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[edit] Template:Publicity text

I like the text in Template:Publicity better since it doesn't give the assumption that permission has been given. In any case it should probably redirect here at some point. DopefishJustin (・∀・) 05:57, May 14, 2005 (UTC)

Done. DopefishJustin (・∀・) 18:46, May 23, 2005 (UTC)
I've changed the word used to released. When an organisation produces promotional publicity material it releases it to the media. I have also changes company to company or organisation. TreveXtalk 17:56, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] why only english wikipedia

why are these photos only on english wikipedia, why can't they beused in the french one for instance? Fabhcún 15:41, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Each user of the material must make their own decision whether their use is fair use. Even other Wikipedias have different rules about fair use so a separate decision would need to be made as to whether the material can be used on fr:, for example. JYolkowski // talk 22:07, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Template too restrictive

I think the text of the template is rather too restrictive, considering that these are promotional images, very much intended to be used by others. Why should there be any requirement for low-resolution use, when a high-res image has been freely given out for the media to use? And while it may be good Wikipedian practice to only uses these images when there is no free alternative, that shouldn't be a legal requirement for fair use here, where the whole intention of the copyright-owner is to get the image out.--Pharos 05:39, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

There are two reasons why the "low resolution" is there. The first is that we can make a better fair use case for lower-resolution images instead of higher-resolution images (since we're using less), and we rarely need anything larger than, say, 600 pixels or so for use in an article anyway. Second, some stuff that is tagged with this tag can be sold (e.g. promotional posters, vintage Coca-Cola ads, etc.), so providing images that are high-resolution and could be used for piracy could be seen as diminishing the market for the work. We're more tolerant of high-resolution images that qualify as {{promophoto}}, so you may want to re-tag images if they so qualify. Regarding your last comment, it's not a legal requirement, but it is part of our fair use guidelines. Feel free to reword. JYolkowski // talk 23:47, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] why don't you make the red copyright sign transparent?

Well, someone should come around and do that. Also, don't just use the headline for you're entire message. - Kookykman|(t)(c)

[edit] Equivalent pulldown?

I am uploading an image for this tag, and Special:Upload's Licensing pulldown doesn't seem to have an applicable selection under Fair Use. — RevRagnarok Talk Contrib Reverts 14:07, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More explicit wording about what this license doesn't cover?

I was wondering if there was any way to change the wording on the tag so it's clear exactly the license covers and does not cover?

It seems people assume they can use the promo tag as long as the image shows up on a website that has any promotional value, i.e. official event websites, sports team websites etc. The tag is pretty clear about what it is for, but it should say what it isn't for.

The tag needs clarification that the license:

  • Covers images that are clearly and specifically marked for distribution
  • Does not cover images found on websites, i.e. images that are part of the site's content and not part of a press kit.
  • Does not cover images that are part of the content of a site.
  • Does not cover ads or images used in ads.

Any idea on how to word it? Ytny 18:32, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't know, but something needs to be done. I just tagged an image for speedy deletion under CSD I7. It was a photograph of a plane crash, tagged as {{promotional}}. —Bkell (talk) 22:09, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Interwiki request

Please add interwiki for Serbian language Wikipedia. The link is

[[sr:Шаблон:Промотивни]]

Thank you. --Branislav Jovanovic 08:04, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] mandatory source

It could be useful to made the source mandatory in the template, in a { { promotional | source } } usage form, to avoid unsourced promo photos. --Marc Lacoste 14:41, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] eu interwiki

{editprotected} Please, add the next interwiki if it is possible: eu:Txantiloi:Propaganda. Thanks. Berria · (talk) 19:50, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Done.--Commander Keane 02:00, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article Specification

The template should have a place where it can specify which articles it has fair use in such as {{Fair use in}} (see below).

Below is for {{Fair use in | Main Page}}.

Copyrighted

This work is copyrighted and unlicensed. It does not fall into one of the blanket fair use categories listed at Wikipedia:Fair use#Images or Wikipedia:Fair use#Audio_clips. However, it is believed that the use of this work in the article " Main Page":

  • To illustrate the object in question
  • Where no free equivalent is available or could be created that would adequately give the same information
  • On the English-language Wikipedia ([1]), hosted on servers in the United States by the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation ([2]),

qualifies as fair use under United States copyright law. Any other uses of this image, on Wikipedia or elsewhere, may be copyright infringement. See Wikipedia:Fair use and Wikipedia:Copyrights.

To the uploader: this tag is not a sufficient claim of fair use. You must also include the source of the work, all available copyright information, and a detailed fair use rationale.

[edit] License vs. fair use: This template needs to be changed

If an image meets Wikipedia promotional requirements, then use of that image is license use rather than fair use. In other words, if an image is released by a company or organization to promote their work or product in the media, then that company or organization gives a license to use that image. The questions that the Wikipedia image uploader using this permissions template still needs to answer is whether that license gives permission to copy, distribute and/or modify the image under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_GFDL). If not, then the Wikipedia image uploader should not be allowed to use a promotional template. In view of this, this template is defective. Use of this template implies that a copyright license is given and yet the template still requires the Wikipedia uploader to go into copyright fair use. A license to use an image where that license does not meet the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License is one factor in determining Fair Use. This template needs to be revised to reflect this as it has generate great confusion on Wikipedia. See Wikipedia:Elimination_of_Fair_Use_Rationale_in_Promotional_Photos. -- Jreferee 18:53, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit requests

  1. Please add ruwiki: [[ru:Шаблон:Promotional]] --Alex Spade 22:19, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
  2. Please add link to md:template:Promosi. Yosri 05:15, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
  3. Please change
    [[Category:Promotional images|<noinclude> </noinclude>{{PAGENAME}}]]
    to
    {{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACE}}|Image|[[Category:Promotional images|<noinclude> </noinclude>{{PAGENAME}}]]}}
    Thanks --Iamunknown 19:16, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
All Done - Harryboyles 21:13, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
In addition, no 2 was meant to be ms:template:Promosi, not md:template:Promosi. That was fixed as well. Harryboyles 05:10, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
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