Talk:Provisional IRA East Tyrone Brigade
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Does anyone else feel that "guerilla" is a more neutral term than terrorist? I mean the previous attacks by this particular unit weren't against purely civilian targets.
[CK]: I'm not sure that targets have to be civilian for an attack to be considered "terrorism". dictionary.com gives us this:
"The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons."
I changed it back to "terrorist" based on this.
The rest of Wikipedia doesn't follow what you said. That definition is not true at all or else pretty much any armed conflict (that is considered illegal which is POV anyway) would qualify. The Provos considered themselves legally justified by there more then reasonable support base, if you disagree thats fine, but thats POV. The word terrorist is not used to refer to armed Irish Republican groups on wikipedia there was some large arguments on it over at Talk:Provisional Irish Republican Army. The arguments alone are indicitive of it being a POV matter, that is easily settled by uses a NPOV word like guerilla, paramilitary, or depending the case not using a discriptive word in that context. (the man was a member of the IRA instead of the man was a member of the [discriptive word] group the IRA).SCVirus 10:40, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] PoV
The SAS held a celebration party after the ambush.: Will we now be listing all the parties held by the IRA after their killings? Andy Mabbett 21:53, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
- If you have a source for IRA parties then by all means list them but I've never read or heard anythiing bout the ra celebrating GiollaUidir 10:49, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Politics
Does anyone know where the IRA in Tyrone stood in relation to the ceasefires? I think they were opposed and some of them went dissident, but I'll have to look it up. We should have a section here about this. Jdorney 00:23, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
East Tyrone, the area in question were skeptical of the ceasefires and peace process but there wasn't widespread defections. (Irish Republican 05:14, 11 January 2007 (UTC))
- I'll add something to it soon--Vintagekits 19:53, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Merge from members
Please merge any relevant content from these articles, per their AFDs:
- Gerry O'Callaghan per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gerry O'Callaghan
- Patrick Kelly per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Patrick Kelly
- Eugene Kelly (Irish republican) per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eugene Kelly (Irish republican)
- Seamus Donnelly per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Seamus Donnelly
- Declan Arthurs per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Declan Arthurs
- Tony Gormley per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tony Gormley
Thanks. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-14 02:13Z
- Fantastic-this article is going to get horrendously messy as a result of this and quite possibally unencyclopedic. I hope the POV-pushers are happy. :| GiollaUidir 12:02, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
- I am probably going to restart the Patrick Kelly article - he was the overall commander of the Tyrone Brigade and over Jim and Padraig. Anyone got any objections? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vintagekits (talk • contribs) 14:27, 15 March 2007 (UTC).
- You'll need to create it in the project preparation area then take it to DRV, you can't just unilaterally recreate it. One Night In Hackney303 14:34, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
- I wasnt just going to spring it, I ws going to start in the the project page and add him to the lonely William Flemming. Whats DRV?--Vintagekits 14:38, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
- Just making sure you knew. DRV is deletion review, I'll be happy to handle that when the time comes. One Night In Hackney303 14:47, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
- But the page wasnt deleted just merged - anyway, if you are happy to sort it then thats gets. Controrebel looks like he is back for a bit and he knows the ET Brigade inside out so should be a big help on that.--Vintagekits 14:52, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
- Deletion review applies to the outcome of any AfD debate, whether it's merge, delete or even keep. If anyone thinks a decision is wrong, that's the next step. One Night In Hackney303 15:04, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
- I wasnt just going to spring it, I ws going to start in the the project page and add him to the lonely William Flemming. Whats DRV?--Vintagekits 14:38, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
- You'll need to create it in the project preparation area then take it to DRV, you can't just unilaterally recreate it. One Night In Hackney303 14:34, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
- I am probably going to restart the Patrick Kelly article - he was the overall commander of the Tyrone Brigade and over Jim and Padraig. Anyone got any objections? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vintagekits (talk • contribs) 14:27, 15 March 2007 (UTC).
- Cool, shouldnt be a problem. I am not going to do the same with Declan, Eugene and Seamus as they were pretty young and the main operation the were involved in but at a later stage might start Gerry's up again.--Vintagekits 15:20, 15 March 2007 (UTC)