Talk:Province of Posen

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Contents 1 On the population table 2 On feudalism 3 WikiProject Historical States 4 Meh.

[edit] On the population table

The population table for Prussia is great, but shouldn't it be in the Prussia article? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bwood (talk • contribs) 19:07, 21 February 2004 (UTC).

Definitely. I also think it's almost certainly wrong. I can't believe that there were only a few thousand people in Posen and West Prussia who did not speak German. john 19:22, 21 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Perhaps the footnote isn't worded correctly, and the column heading can be interpretted more literally. The numbers might match "foreigners". Certainly in 1890, a significant portion of the ethnic Polish in Posen couldn't speak German very well, even if most of the children had been forced to learn it in school. - Bwood 01:19, 22 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Perhaps. Certainly it is difficult to understand how there could be more non-German speakers in the Rhineland than in Posen. I'd add that a fairly substantial of Poznanian peasants probably had no education at all, and many will have been educated before 1863, when education would likely still have been in Polish. john 01:52, 22 Feb 2004 (UTC)

[edit] On feudalism

(moved from page to Talk) (see Freiherr vom Stein), I feel this is more appropriate in an article about feudalism, and perhaps we should see if one exists and link into it or create one. I'm taking your word about the 1810 date, I was thinking that serfdom was removed in stages by decree, and am pretty confidant that it was not stringently enforced for decades, allowing the old practices to continue in some form on many estates until the late 1800s. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bwood (talk • contribs) 16:55, 25 April 2004 (UTC).

After looking at the link, I'm going to put it back in pending more research. The vom Stein article has a lot of useful detail, but it is buried and needs to be added to a separate article about German and Polish feudalism. I'm particularily interested on how the Prussian laws affected Posen, since the law changed when Napoleon had removed Posen from Prussia. I seem to remember that the laws were different from Prussia proper and the annexed provinces. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bwood (talk • contribs) 17:03, 25 April 2004 (UTC).

[edit] WikiProject Historical States

The article is being conformed to the project template of Wikipedia:WikiProject Historical States Bwood 03:07, 1 May 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Meh.

Western Posen at around this time would have been primarily German -- Greater Poland only begins with the eastern portions, regardless of what Cold War nationalist Polish propaganda says.

Regardless, I rewrote the section that pertains to ownership of it thruought history -- it is now written more clearly. Ameise -- chat 08:43, 27 June 2006 (UTC)