Talk:Providence (religion)

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Contents 1 Apparent negative media bias 2 Sources needed please 3 Case in Point 4 Latest edits

[edit] Apparent negative media bias

I know there is positive media in regards to the events that have been held by secular organisations run by members of Providence. However, primarily because these events generally don't present themselves as events of Providence, I believe such praise is better placed in an article about the secular organisations as opposed to this one. RB972 12:22, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sources needed please

Hi, could someone please provide an independent source for the Korean EXODUS father who was attacked? It seems a bit far out there and needs some backing. [unsigned by Uptional]

The source is in the reference section: Seven Days SBS news report 13 June 05. You may also want to see this [1]. The pictures are gone now (probably to conserve disk space), but you can see the article with the pictures: [2], [3], [4]. (For those who don't know Korean, link [3] shows the picture of the father bashed, and the article/other pictures confirms it is in relation to JMS.) RB972 00:10, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Case in Point

It seems to appear that the author of this article has wandered into that gray area of conjecture again. Here's a perfect example of what conjecture is:

First read the article at this link: http://www.religionnewsblog.com/17201/police-raid-setsuri-cult

Now read how the author spun the article with this bit of conjecture:

Police have raided a Providence facility in Chiba, Japan on suspicion a senior member illegally obtained residence status. They also searched a facility in the city’s Chuo Ward. The police believe Jung used a room inside to sexually assault female followers.

Again, as on the Jung Myung Seok article, can we PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE (pretty please) refrain from these banal attempts at media spin? They do not serve the article well. As such, I will remove the offending section, quite legitimately. [unsigned by Uptional]

Please WP:AGF. It appears you did not notice the final sentence of that article. I don't appreciate your continual false accusations. (BTW: I replaced the link to Yahoo's version [5], although I don't think Yahoo keeps their news forever.) RB972 00:10, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Latest edits

After waiting patiently for citations for two sections of the article, I finally deleted them when no sources were provided.

I also added a paragraph last week in the theology section and cited it from one of the books that have been published by American Providence.

Remember: hearsay is not evidence. Just because someone tells me that Jung is a poor African farmer from Sudan does not mean I can write it into this article, no matter how strongly I believe it to be true.

Best regards, Uptional 22:55, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

The Korea section was not uncited. As I said, it comes from Seven Days SBS news report 13 June 05. I am re-adding it. RB972 03:20, 16 February 2007 (UTC)