Talk:Protectorate
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These don't fit the definition.
- Examples of "protectorates" include the allied occupation of post-World War 2 Japan and Germany.
I reverted. Puerto Rico, American Samoa, etc. etc. are not protectorates under American law. Cuba was something of a protectorate in the early 20th century.
According to a history book, a protectorate "had its own government, but officials of a foreign power guided its policies, particularly in foreign affairs" (706) (WORLD HISTORY--by the National Geographic Society) I hope this helps.
67.160.126.132 02:33, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Actually, the Code of federal regulations defines "protectorate" as the definition is listed!
This is because during the late 20th century a "protectorate" was unethical. Thus all treaties of a protectorate status were altered to exclude protectorates. Today possible protectorates are called Insular Areas, and governed by the OIA. (http://www.doi.gov/oia/).
Code of Federal Regulations, Title 40, Volume 8, Revised as of July 1, 2003
“Protectorate means American Samoa, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the District of Columbia, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, and the Virgin Islands.”
Remove reference to protectorate.
http://www.doi.gov/oia/FAQ/faq2.htm
Meld above with search of CFR. Apparantly the EPA uses the term protectorate in internal correspondence and federal regulations to refer to insular areas, but no one else does, and the OIA argues that this terminology is incorrect.
By the way if you think that is confusing, look at the the status of a treaty under United States law.
[edit] nominal independence?
Some questions:
1. If a protectorate is a nominal independent state with an own head of state as some say, how can old maps list them as part of British, French or German colonies? When I was a kid i thougt the protectorate was colonies.
2. Could another state, like France, open an embassy in a let's say British protectorate?
- Normally, not without British permission, which would be unlikely. The protecting power takes care of the protectorate's foreign relations. (This is also the answer to #1.) Septentrionalis
3. Could a protectorate join international organizations, like the League of Nations or the United Nations?
- With the permission of the protecting power. Septentrionalis
4. What kind of citizenship had the local people in a protectorate. I know that Egypt was a British protectorate between 1914-1922, so were the Egyptians British citizens or Egyptian citizens?
- Egyptian subjects. Septentrionalis 19:55, 9 July 2005 (UTC)
Well, the answer to the question of whether a protectorate could join the UN, should really be "no." There is a distinction between a protectorate and a "protected power." (I think Morocco was one for a while.), which is basically just this. A protected power may be just like a protectorate, but it maintains a separate international legal personality, while a protectorate does not, and could not be a party in an international court, sign treaties etc on its own.. (So if a protecting power gave all these permissions, it would in effect be making the protectorate into a "protected power" I guess.) I should probably put this in the article once I find the book I am looking for. --John Z 22:33, 9 July 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Need more clearcut definition
I think google gives a more clear defintion than this article does... I think that's not a good thing.
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