Talk:Prince Lorenzo Borghese

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Isn't a prince referred to by his title, then his first name? The article inconsistently refers to him as 'Prince Borghese' and 'Prince Lorenzo', shouldn't it be one or the other?



Depends on the situation, though British Monarchy rule are more stringent. The borghese family title is 'honorary' as his family was titled by the Pope, rather than being of royal blood - of the royal ruling class: nobility not royalty.

Its proper to address him as "Prince Lorenzo", "Prince Lorenzo Borghese" and at official or state functions he may be announced as "The Prince, Lorenzo Borghese".

As he has a brother the use of "Prince Borghese" would not be proper; as in thise case there are several Prince Borgheses, including his borther and father. (Think "Prince Windsor of England"...as Andrew, Edward, Charles, William etc..are all "Princes" they are referred by their title and first; or title and full name, not title and surname ie Prince Windsor)

The girls on the show are confusing Royalty with titled people. They will not become HRH Princess____ (HRH = Her Royal Highness) as with Royalty. They are not becoming a Princess with castle and staff, ruling over the people. They wont "rule", have subjects, and the title is essentially just that, a title of little effective value. Though for some contestants clearly more of an "affected" value.

European Titles are not uncommon. See harrods.com and when you sign up, rather than the few US prefix defaults of "Mr. Ms. Mrs. Dr."; there are dozens of prefixes including Prince Princess Duke Duchess, Bishop, etc etc Starburster 02:48, 28 November 2006 (UTC)