Talk:Prince Andrew, Duke of York

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[edit] Surname

All the descendants of Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, have a different surname (Mountbatten-Windsor) to the Royal Family name (Windsor). Source: Buckingham Palace Press Office when checking info for the page on Anne, Princess Royal

Yeah, that is mentioned in the article, House of Windsor.


Not all, actually, some. The Press Office is improvising; the 1960 Order-in-Council "my descendants, other than descendants enjoying the style, title or attributes of Royal Highness and the titular dignity of Prince or Princess, and female descendants who marry and their descendants, shall bear the name Mountbatten-Windsor" excludes descendants that carry the titular dignity of Prince or Princess. (emphasis added). Because the Order-in-Council is so poorly drafted, the surnames of the current British Princes and Princesses is disputed: some say it should be Windsor, though various officials (but not the Royal Family) have used "Mountbatten-Windsor" for some of them. (They all sign with no surname). -- Someone else 02:50, 19 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Someone else is correct - see here http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/Page3379.asp I have updated the page and those of other HRH's who Wikipedia has as Mountbatten-Windsors. In fact I think the only Mountbatten-Windsor who exists is Lady Louise, daughter of TRH The Earl and Countess of Wessex Ham21 22:20, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Traditional Scottish Titles

'As second son of the Sovereign, Prince Andrew is also traditionally entitled to the Scottish peerages of Earl of Ross and Lord Ardmanach; however, these titles have not been conferred for some centuries.' From the article.

I doubt that these peerages can be counted as traditional--if we are to believe Wiki, the younger sons of the Scottish monarchs were created Dukes of Ross only twice, in 1481 and 1514. Mapple 10:57, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

No one has ever been "traditionally entitled" to a peerage anyway. The only peerages which are automatic are those held by the eldest son of the Sovereign (Cornwall, Rothesay, Carrick, etc.), and they are held by virtue of specific provisions in their original creations, not due to "tradition". And no one is very likely to be created Earl of Ross at the moment, since the Irish Earl of Rosse would likely make quite a bit of fuss. I've removed the statement from the article. Proteus (Talk) 14:52, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] R&A

"This is not without controversy and the Duke has been criticised for using the Queen's Flight for transport to various golfing functions."

My memory was that the R&A said they paid for the cost of the flights Alci12 13:46, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Neutrality

Despite showing coding that says "Prince Andrew, Duke of York", the article saves as "The Gay Prince Andrew, Duke of Pork" with references throughout. How do we fix that?

[edit] A challenge.

Find and cite the quote from Andrew's famous media gaffe where he admitted flying as an Exocet decoy during the Falklands conflict. ИΞШSΜΛЯΞ 23:59, 6 August 2006 (UTC)



[edit] Topless Model

What? No mention of his relationship with Koo Stark, topless model? What bout his predeliction for practical jokes? This article's pretty thin on the person, rather than the position.

--TresRoque 12:38, 18 February 2007 (UTC)