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Contents 1 Vietnam 2 Estonia 3 WP:V 4 Azerbaijan 5 Jaejudo 6 Finland

[edit] Vietnam

For most of the time period between 1054 and 1802, Vietnam was known as Đại Việt and not Annam as indicated in this map (it was briefly renamed something else between 1400 and 1407). DHN 05:38, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Fixed! I hope i did a decent job converting those letters into pixels. Foobaz·o< 01:35, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

The accented letters look oddly out of place among the other non-accented names. I think it will look better without the accents. DHN 19:58, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Please feel free to revert it. Foobaz·o< 07:40, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Estonia

Southern Estonia and northen Latvia were controlled by Livonian Brothers of the Sword, a German ruled Crusader state. Livonian Brothers of the Sword conquered southern Estonia and northen Latvia during first quater of 13th century. Not showing that would be make map incorrect.

No. The Livonian order was not organized until 1202, and their conquest of Livonia did not begin in earnest until 1218. This map specifically states that it is a snapshot of the year 1200.

My mistake not watching the year, but however in either case it is wrong to mark northen estonia as part of Sweeden, it was conquered by Denmark insteed of Sweeden (Sweedis help was later reqested for defence against Denmark but that has nothing to do with political map in 1200). At 1200, estonia should be marked as free tribal territory. There is a offical Estonian forgein ministery website where there is stated that first Danish attempts were made in 1206 and no mention of Sweedish conquest of northen estonia.

http://www.estonica.org/eng/lugu.html?menyy_id=94&kateg=43&alam=61&leht=2

4rdi 10:14, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Our Estonia article agrees with you that Estonia was an independent, organized country in 1200. I could change the map again. Is the brown area on the map coinciding with modern Estonia an accurate representation of 1200 Estonia? Should it include the islands too? Is greyish blue a good color for Estonia, since that's what's on their flag? Foobaz·o< 22:59, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

It seems all correct for me. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4rdi (talk • contribs) 12:51, 22 December 2006 (UTC).

There was no organized Estonian state prior to Danish conquest. In fact, very little is known at all. Free "tribal" territory is the way to go. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.237.233.95 (talk • contribs) 05:00, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:V

What sources were used in producing this map? siafu 20:19, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Several. The primary source is Cassell's Atlas of World History by John Haywood (Cassell Reference, 2001.) I also used Atlas of World History edited by Patrick O'Brien (Oxford Univ. Press, USA 1999).

[edit] Azerbaijan

This map may err in extending Persian rule into Azerbaijan in 1200. In that year, I think the Shirvan shahs were ruling in Baku, and the Ildegizid atabegs were ruling in Nakhichevan. 128.174.36.225 18:17, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

That is true but they were at least nominal vassals of the Khwarizmshahs. It is difficult on a map of this size and scope to include all of the many small polities that existed at the time. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 20:50, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jaejudo

The island of Jejudo in the south of Koryo is shown as Japanese territory. That is wrong. the Koryo dynasty had complete control over the area. Many times it was raided by the Wakou but not dominated. Darkstyx 06:10, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Finland

I think it's a bit misleading to have the text "Finns" on the white area outside the Swedish area. Finns lived inside and outside the Swedish area, so I would move the label "Finns" just a little bit down and left, so that it would be somewhat on the border of the Swedish area.Shubi 19:29, 12 March 2007 (UTC)