Talk:Portuguese abortion referendum, 2007

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[edit] PS a party of the Left?

I honestly can't find any sources anywhere that state that PS (Portuguese Socialist Party) is a Leftist party *nowadays*. I was under the impression that, despite their name, they were mostly Centrist as they're completely different from the real Portuguese Left parties (Left Bloc, PCP, The Greens). It seemed silly to lump PS together with those three, so I put PS under "Centrist". Since I got reverted, I'm assuming I'm wrong. However, I can't find any reliable, official references to PS's political affiliation. Both the English and Portuguese PS Wikipedia articles make no mention to its political affiliation and I can't find this information anywhere on their site. --Mpontes 13:15, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

PS assumes itself primarily as a leftwing party, sometimes as center-left, but usually just left. PCP-The Greens and the Left Bloc are far left parties.--Húsönd 15:45, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Left and right are not universal, by any means. PS bills itself as left but just as PSD is a part of the center, which justifies the only slight policy change after recent elections. CDS-PP is right wing, but maybe about as much as the US Democrats are. PCP and the Left Bloc are the ones in fact on the classical left, pro-workers, pro-unions et al. neming does not reflect spectrum position, practice, and maybe rethoric does.Galf 08:47, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

The US Democrats are not right wing, they're left wing. PSD and PS can indeed be considered center parties, but they're clearly oriented to opposite directions: PS-left and PSD-right.--Húsönd 14:34, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Trust me: By European standards, the US Democrats are *DEFINITELY* right-wing. They're just moderate right-wing in Europe, whereas Republicans would be considered almost nationalist. —Nightstallion (?) 09:30, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Haha, I can SO agree with that. :-) But since the European concept of left-wing is virtually inexistent in the US, I guess that one can refer to the US Democrats as left wing (in an American perspective, that is). At least it sounds nicer than to simply acknowledge the existence of a modern nation ruled by only two parties, who happen to be both right-wing. Sick.--Húsönd 03:33, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Official results

Published on the Diário da Républica yesterday, only minor corrections to the provisional results, a 0.01% increase to the Yes side, same decrease to the No camp. This is perfectly normal, as provisional results are reported over the phone, as opposed to the paperwork carried out for the official counts. Call me pedantic, but this is an encyclopedia. BTW, also updated the reference, table is on the botom of that .pdf page. Galf 08:47, 2 March 2007 (UTC)