Talk:Political families by country: F-M

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I don't understand the inclusion of Silvio Berlusconi amoung political families. For what I know he is the first and one member of his family to enter politics.

Second, I don't understand the inclusion of the Medicis, the ancient reigning family of Tuscany. You wrote that reigning families were not included in this page! However the succession is wrong. The Medici family included: 1) Giovanni (influent political man in Florence, but still not yet a Lord); "Lords de facto without any political title" 2) Cosimo I; 3) Piero I; 4) Lorenzo I the Magnificent and Giuliano I; 4) Lorenzo I alone; 5) Piero II; 6) Cardinal Giovanni (later Pope Leo X); 7) Giuliano II; 8) Lorenzo II; 9)Cardinal Giulio (later Pope Clemens VII);10) Ippolito and Alessandro; 10 )Alessando (alone). "Dukes of Florence" 1) Alessandro; 2) Cosimo I. "Grand Dukes of Tuscany" 1) Cosimo I; 2) Francesco I; 3) Ferdinando I; 4) Cosimo II; 5) Ferdinando II; 6) Cosimo III; 7) Gian Gastone.

However, ancient Italy was filled with reigning families, often without any title, which reigned as private citizen or with Republican titles, sometimes until their extinction or loosing of power, sometimes before beign recognized by Roman Emperor or by Pope (such as the Medicis: imperial Dukes of Florence and papal Grand Dukes of Tuscany). The most important, amoung them, were the Gonzagas of Mantua and Monferrato; the Estes of Ferrara, Modena and Reggio; the Viscontis and the Sforzas of Milan; the Montefeltro and the Della Roveres of Urbino; the Della Scalas of Verona and Vicenza; the Malatestas of Rimini; the Bentivoglios of Bologna; the Farneses of Parma and Piacenza; the Malaspinas and Cybo-Malaspinas of Massa and Carrara; the Baglionis of Perugia; the Appianis of Piombino, but there were many others, because, since the Middle Age, practically every city, town, village and castle was indipendent in some moment of its history!