Talk:Polish 1st Independent Parachute Brigade

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I was planning to put back the general's picture which I had replaced with the brigade patch. It's back now, but thanks Halibut for putting the pic back first, I changed it back to the original General's pic which is more 'action' oriented! :-) Pkmink 14:13, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)

At your service :D Halibutt 14:38, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Patch ..

The 1st Independent Polish Parachute Brigade did not wear the diving eagle as a patch. It was issued in metal form for qualifying as a paratrooper, and the wreath was added for jumping into a battle situation or for jumping behind enemy lines with the Cichociemni. Regards .. Gary J. .. Son of a Polish Paratrooper - Arnhem Veteran

It depends on what you understand as a "patch". Indeed the Odznaka spadochronowa was worn in the situations you described. However, does it make it something else than a patch? [[User:Halibutt|Halibutt]] 02:31, Oct 7, 2004 (UTC)

Halibutt, I'm only trying to point out that the "znak" - "Odznaka Spadochronowa" was not and has never been classed as a patch. "A patch" .. is made of cloth. Also, the "Odznaka Spadochronowa" graphic you have is of a later communist issue and not a WW2 combat issue. During WW2 when the badge was counter issued after a mission with the combat wreath, it is then not classed as and "Ordinary Parachute Badge", but as a "Field issue" ... For futher clarification I refer you to "Historia Polskiego Znaku Spadochronowego" authored by the late J.J.Lorys of the Sikorski Institute in London. Regards Gary J.

[edit] Strenght

Ekhm. Strenght of the unit (size, etc.) would be quite useful. Also I'd love to see discussion of why the unit was not used in the Warsaw Uprising.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 01:56, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

As far as I can understand it had to do with 3 things: 1. Logistic difficulty, distances were still too far to fly Dakota's laden with paratroopers from allied territory to Warsaw. 2. Political reasons, allied support for the Uprising was luke-warm at best 3. Simple lack of sufficient qualified paratroopers for the big market garden operation. Every available airborne unit was highly valuable in this light. Pkmink 20:20, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image of the Polish paratroopers

There are two versions of the image. One of bad quallity claiming that it are Polish soldiers; one high quallity claiming that they are British troops. The image is also in the book A Bridge Too Far and there it is claimed to be of two british soldiers. It could be that the image is out of place here.

Polish_Paratroopers
Polish_Paratroopers
Two British Airborne troops dug in
Two British Airborne troops dug in